[QUOTE] Part of your problem is the chamfer on the nose of most sockets which is there to help it easily onto the nut. If you are dealing with very thin nuts this leaves only a tiny amount of the nut actually in the body of the socket and creates a tendency for the socket to cam off of the nut. Grind of the chamfered nose of the socket and all will be well. [/QUOTE] Thank fuck you don't work for me or you'd be taking the long walk to unemployment.