You know that discussion a while back abour sleeping in cars?

From memory (and it gets worse every day), there was a guy in NSW a
while back who got sh*t faced, slept in his car in his driveway and the
cops knicked him as the keys being "in the vehicle" showed intent to
drive (the fact that they woke him up notwithstanding).

I guess it all boils down to whether or not the arresting officer got
one the night before.

N/

 

That's the catch-22 of drink driving. Driving when under the influence
of alcohol is banned because the alcohol affects your reactions and your
judgement and yet, that the penalties for drink driving are among the
most severe for any driving offence, implies that you should be held
fully accountable for decisions you make while under the influence of
alcohol, as if your judgement was not impaired at all.

I bet 95% of people who get caught drink driving would, when sober,
never consider the penalties of getting caught when drink driving to be
worth the risk of getting caught, which proves the anomaly/absurdity.

Nev..

 

OK, Nev, so are you arguing that because someone is pissed they should
somehow be allowed, or at least, not held responsible for what they have
done when pissed?

regards,
CrazyCam

 

From memory (and it gets worse every day), there was a guy in NSW a while
back who got sh*t faced, slept in his car in his driveway and
the cops knicked him as the keys being "in the vehicle" showed intent to
drive (the fact that they woke him up notwithstanding).

Woods Point copper tried similar on a mate...
He parked across the road from the pub facing the wrong way.. Copper came
into pub yelling whose fuckin car is that over there facing the wrong way...
Richo said mine.
Cop said move it.. Rich said not in a million years, been drinking all arvo.
Cop yelled move it or I'll impound it.

Mate took the keys out of his pocket to throw to his wife, and the cop started
ranting about intent to drive, your fucked pal blah blah blah.

Richo's missus had been videoing the whole thing on her phone. The copper
changed his tune as the 20-30 other people in the pub told in to GAGF. Car
was moved then and there, but didnt move the next day at all. Bettin the
cop was waiting behind any bush to **** him up.

 

have to be prick of judge that suspends your licence for that.

Is there any other kind?

 

He discussed it with me and several mates that were with him for a slab
and probably 2 dozen people off here.

anyone PRIOR to doing it?

 

Yes and No.

Nev..

 

What's up Nev ??
Not game enough to commit to an answer this week ??

 

Easy solution. Make a habit of not doing it. I know if I have one beer
(most of the time) I will want ten and I know what my will power is like
and I am intelligent enough to know that any amount of alcohol will
erode ny judgement (married and divorced three times). So the golden
rule is: If you are going to drink - get a cab / bus / lift or don't
have a drink. Not even one. I'm not a puritan - I just know how my
addled brain works under the influence and I make allowances for it.

How did I get to this? An acquaintance of mine many years ago was on his
way to court to answer a high level drinking charge. He was /driving/ to
court whilst sipping from an orange juice bottle - half OJ and half
vodka. On the way to the court he ran a pedestrian crossing and killed a
young girl.

That was when I stopped drink driving.

N/

 

Kevin Gleeson wrote...

And it's a bullshit rule being enforced by arsehole cops. (not that there are
any other kind, mind you).

What did booking you achieve? What does the law under which they think they were
booking you achieves?

As for those others here with no sympathy for your plight, that's OK, karma's a
bitch, or so they say.

 

bruce wrote...

Yep, the type that let real criminals off with good behavior bonds, suspended
sentencaes, no conviction, small fines, no fines, etc., etc..

 

Nev.. wrote...

And yet thugs use alcohol impairment as an excuse for when they beat up their
wives/girlfriends or their children.

And the judges accept "diminished responsibility" as an excuse and let them off
accordingly.

But, be exactly at 0.05 and you'll be walking. Unless, of course, you're a
celebrity, or underworld figure, in which case you get let off completely.

 

Wish I believed that.

 

Just an addendum to this story, after a month of no driver's licence I
got my day in court on Monday. Because I plead not guilty and
presented my case, the magistrate had no choice but to adjourn the
case until witnesses (ie the 2 cops and the breath analysis guy) could
present their case. In 2 months time! Fark.

Anyway, there's a guy in a suit sitting just down from the magistrate
and he beckons me over when the magistrate finishes with and quietly
asks me for my mobile number and is it OK to ring me later in the day.
I thought he must have been legal aid or something but fine, any help,
and gave him my number.

3pm that afternoon he rings me. Turns out he is the police prosecutor.
He had listened to what I had said and believed I was being dealt with
harshly. He rang the police officers involved and they confirmed that
I had been polite and not belligerent (but drunk) and he decided that
the police department would withdraw all charges against me. I still
have to go to court in 2 months time but as charges have been dropped
there will be no case. He has notified motor registry that the charges
were made in error and he sent me a letter stating that case. I took
that into Registry today and I now have a temporary licence and my
plastic one should arrive in a week. Win. Well apart from the cost of
taxis over the last month ...

 

Does your fee include your usual Happy Ending?

 

Well done and some good luck
Pleasing to see someone had a clue

 

On 11/03/2011 3:33 PM, Kevin Gleeson wrote:
(snip happy tale)

Make sure you still tell everybody what c#nts the Pigs were.

 

Sanity prevails. Hopefully the cops who started all this shit get a
hiding from their boss.

Fraser

 

not a chance
you realise it is the big blue gang ?

 

On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 16:33:09 +1100, Kevin Gleeson wrote:

snip

Nice one.