Ace escribió: [QUOTE] Either you're out of touch or you eat at a different sort of place to me - I've oftren found they vear towards the raw, but there's no real consistency, whereas in France "à point" will be pretty much the same in 99% of places. Although they do use some god-awful meat in France, but I usually stick to rump or fillet anyway.[/QUOTE] Out of touch, maybe. I haven't been to the USA in about 7 years, and haven't had a steak in France for about 10. But I can remember eating charcoal steaks in USA and very bloody steaks in France.