Yes, but is it art?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by ogden, Jan 14, 2009.

  1. ogden

    Veggie Dave Guest

    The same can also be said for the first modern art pieces I saw in a
    gallery. They were also displayed as though they were true works of
    genius.

    In the same way I don't like all 'classic' art (although it's rare to
    see something where you can't appreciate the artist's talent, even when
    you don't appreciate how they used it), I don't dislike all 'modern'
    art.

    The idea that a like or dislike is governed by the label its given is
    ludicrous when it is far simpler to understand that someone simply does
    or does not like something.

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    Veggie Dave, Jan 14, 2009
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    CT Guest

    My reply was better punctuated. :eek:)
     
    CT, Jan 14, 2009
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    Eddie Guest

    You will, Charlie; you will.
     
    Eddie, Jan 14, 2009
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    Beav Guest

    How much would a fucking big wall cost?


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    Beav, Jan 14, 2009
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    geoff Guest

    Someone on 5 live today gave the definition of culture as "anything that
    isn't football"
     
    geoff, Jan 14, 2009
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    DR Guest

    ogden posted:
    As one who is considerably short-sighted, I follow the theory that
    Monet was also severely myopic, and simply painted *exactly what he
    saw*. It's certainly plausible; his proportion and scale are very
    close to how they should be, but his outlines and details are blurry
    and indistinct. If I take my glasses off I could interpret my view of
    the world as an Impressionist vista.
     
    DR, Jan 14, 2009
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    ogden Guest

    I think I can safely say you're looking at it wrong.
     
    ogden, Jan 14, 2009
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    ginge Guest

    Fair enough, but, can you draw a Rolfaroo?
     
    ginge, Jan 14, 2009
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    DR Guest

    ginge posted:
    I can't draw flies. I have not a shred of artistic ability
    whatsoever; my freehand drawing is on a par with a particularly
    untalented 2-year old. I suspect my lack of ability to appreciate art
    is linked to this. No great loss.
     
    DR, Jan 14, 2009
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    ginge Guest

    See now we're getting somewhere.

    UKRM's best artists in the world, so far.

    1 Rolf Harris
    2 Monet
    3 Duchamp (with his piss-poor fountain)
    4 Possibly somebody in Wigan, because they didn't make a wall, and
    wasted Fr Jack's taxes.
    5= Darren
    5= A 2 year old.
    6 Anybody who has stuff in the Tate Modern, because Veggie Dave said
    it's 99% shit.
     
    ginge, Jan 14, 2009
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    Fr Jack Guest

    Round your gaff?
     
    Fr Jack, Jan 15, 2009
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    ogden Guest

    Top of the list has to be anyone who does those crappy paintings of
    spitfires flying over battleships at Jutland and stuff.
     
    ogden, Jan 15, 2009
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    Domènec Guest

    And the other 1% is actual shite.

    http://www.art-mode-design.com/post.php?p=49

    Artist's Shit Piero Manzoni 1933-1963 italian pioneer of the Arte Povera,
    The Manzoni father had a preserve meat factory named "Manzotini". One day,
    the father and the son dispute and the industrialist launches: "You are an
    artist of shit !". Manzoni takes his/her father with the word and shit in
    limp (90 on the whole). He deposited thirty grams of excrement per box to
    sell thereafter these boxes with the price of thirty grams gold according to
    the value of the rate of gold on which "shit of artist" in various languages
    was registered.

    These boxes all were now sold and are found in various collections of art in
    the whole world and are negotiated at a high price, except however for some
    which probably exploded because of the corrosion of the box and the pressure
    of gas. Since its creation, this series was disseminated in the whole
    world. Today, the value of a (...) Aujourd'hui, la valeur d'une boîte est
    d'environ 30 500? ( 25 000 à 35 000 US$).
     
    Domènec, Jan 15, 2009
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    CT Guest

    |
    This should be 7, what with the two 5=.
    But they look almost *real*.
     
    CT, Jan 15, 2009
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    Ace Guest

    Oh sure, you'll not find me disagreeing on your basic premise here, I
    assure you.
     
    Ace, Jan 15, 2009
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    Ace Guest

    *306b*

    I bet you thought you'd got away with that one, didn't you?
     
    Ace, Jan 15, 2009
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    Eddie Guest

    Curses. I thought it was quite a subtle one.
     
    Eddie, Jan 15, 2009
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    Krusty Guest

    Genius can't always be explained.

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    Krusty, Jan 15, 2009
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    crn Guest

    Magic mushrooms ?.
     
    crn, Jan 15, 2009
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    Colin Irvine Guest

    Doesn't it predate MP?
     
    Colin Irvine, Jan 15, 2009
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