Yamaha YZF600 Thundercat

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by addy, Nov 21, 2007.

  1. Are there more accidents involving bikes now pro-rata than back then
    as well, bearing in mind things like, as others have mentioned, bikes
    have improved in most other ways as well as the sheer power they knock
    out.

    And then there's the fact that whereas all one had to do in your day
    was to avoid the man clutching a clipboard jumping out from behind a
    hedge in order to get a full licence, nowadays you need to be far more
    financially committed to biking if you want to ride the bigger stuff -
    whereas you used to be able to just jump on a 250 with L-plates with
    no training, you have to go through CBT and DAS to jump on a 'Cat
    these days.

    Go back even further, and whilst there was less traffic on the roads,
    there never used to be a DD limit and I believe it was the norm to
    mutter 'I've only had four pints' before driving home.
    Rubbish.

    The terminally stupid will always be terminally stupid and overdo it,
    be it lobbing a moped or bike away, or lobbing a car into a tree.

    Have you got any stats that show that newbies on sports 600s have more
    accidents than those who started off in the 70s and 80s on 250s?
    Yes, I had this on the ex Barry Richards GS500 I launched along a
    straight that actually turned out to be a corner, just after I passed
    my test.

    I reckon I'd have faired just as well, if not better, on something
    like a 'cat, or my usual choice of steed back then, a CBR600.
    I didn't have this though... :)
     
    jackhackettuk, Nov 22, 2007
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  2. addy

    wessie Guest

    yes, the audience only laughed out loud during the infamous armco incident.
    Rotten fruit was tossed the other times.
     
    wessie, Nov 22, 2007
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  3. No, but the born-agains and the mature DAS-boys *are* the groups tht are
    showing the worrying increase in casualty figures.

    Curiously, these are also the groups that jump straight onto big bikes
    rather than going the 125cc --> 33bhp route.

    Ultimately, it's all about experience. Nothing is as valuable as
    experience. Get through the first year or two intact, and your chances
    improve enormously. A bit like old-style fighter pilots' early mission,
    really.

    But inexperience and a lot of power is not a good mix. IMHO, of course.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Nov 22, 2007
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  4. Well I am now 34... and maybe it's just me, but I certainly don't feel
    as sharp as I used to when out on the bike or driving.

    But then I don't tend to ride everywhere at ten tenths any more,
    either.

    Nor do I get the adrenalin rush that I used to get when doing so, no
    matter how big the bike.

    Having said that, I've not tried anything big that's that recent.
    I've always maintained that you're safer on something like a CBR600
    than you are a CG125, assuming you fully familiarise yourself with the
    bike before 'aving it large', as the handling / braking etc, is that
    much better.
    I disagree to a certain extent.

    If you're anything like me, then a bit of complacency will have crept
    into your riding as time has gone by, something which I also feel is
    linked to the fact I don't seem to get an adrenalin rush from riding
    bikes fast any more.
    Funnily enough, the bulk of the bike related deaths reported in the
    local press over the last summer seem to have involved experienced
    motorcyclists rather than newbies...

    "Familiarity breeds contempt..."
     
    jackhackettuk, Nov 23, 2007
    #24
  5. I'd like to know how the local press distinguishes between experienced
    and born again...
     
    The Older Gentleman, Nov 23, 2007
    #25
  6. addy

    wessie Guest

    (The Older Gentleman) wrote in
    Same way as always: guesswork, assumptions and misrepresentation.
     
    wessie, Nov 23, 2007
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