Yamaha YBR 125 or Honda CG125? Opinions please.

I need a learner bike. I'm living in Switzerland and will buy it
new.

Any opinions on the YBR 125 or Honda CG125? Or should I look at
something else?

Thanks.

Steve.

 

Why new? You'll probably drop it.

 

More to the point, why a YBR?

There is only One True Learner Bike.

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**** that.

 

^^^^^^
AKA Switzerland, especially on a uk newsgroup )

 

nah, if you want a Yam learner bike, it's got to be the TDR125.

 

But that wouldn't be in the grand tradition for me. Or you, I suspect.

 

But it would be for Cab.

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well, no - though I really, really wanted one (one of the original
breed, not the current re-issue), but had to put up with a shitty
underpowered CG125.

 

Cos he'll probably get more english-speaking Swiss residents here than
on a Swiss newsgroup? Anyhoo, what difference does his location make
to the question?


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Local laws/regulations, easy availability of windy mountain roads,
colder climate at times...

 

According to our local dealership, the fuel injected YBR125s are pretty much
trouble free. CG125s <MSOHPR> are pretty much trouble free anyway. Avoid
any old stock carbed YBRs and just choose what you prefer.

Apparently the YBR is a bit sprightlier, for 125cc four stroke values of
sprightly. They handle in a similar fashion, have similar riding positions
but the CG is more amenable to home bodging.

If you want something four stroke, Japanese and sportier, look to the CBR125
and the new Yamaha YZF-R125. I'd take the Yamaha anyday on looks alone.

Personally, I'd avoid anything Chinese from ebay.

Alternatives?, well, theres Hyosung or Sachs with a range of 125s, the
venerable Cagiva Mito and the Aprilia RS. The Italian two stroke bikes
really are miniature rockets and need cosseting, but by 'eck they go well.

 

http://www.intabikes.co.uk/stock.php?id=3724
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Thats cute.

 

What is the current Swiss thinking on two-stroke motors?

 

Sulzer still reckon they are very good for low speed marine diesel
applications.

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There's the marine application for the CG, of course: it gets a bit
marinaceous at the bottom of Beachy Head.

 

From what I can find, they are following the EURO-3 specifications, so
catalytic converter equipped strokers should be OK. I didn't look very hard
though.

http://www.empa.ch/plugin/template/empa/*/39486/---/l=2

I couldn't find anything specific on two strokes within 5 minutes of
searching, so gave up.

I read a piece on the new Mito recently, it meets EURO-3 so should be OK as
should the Yamaha TDR125.

 

That certainly is a very attractive machine.

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Young chap at our refrigeration wholesaler was washing down his brand
spanking new Prilly RS125 yesterday. That really is a teenage wet
dream machine.

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