yamaha xj550j electronis

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by Gut, Oct 20, 2005.

  1. Gut

    Gut Guest

    the previous owner of my bike tried to rewire it and messed up, and
    when i tried to start it i smelt burning things, i got a aftermarker
    CDI box and an wondering, since it once had lights but now doesn't can
    i just wire the CDI from the magneto and make it just send juice to the
    coil
     
    Gut, Oct 20, 2005
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  2. What magneto?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Oct 20, 2005
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  3. Gut

    Gut Guest

    in the service manual it refers to it as the CDI magneto, it is like a
    generator to charge the battery to run the lights
     
    Gut, Oct 20, 2005
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  4. Maybe the XJ550J (it's a Maxim, right?) has a CDI, maybe it doesn't.
    People call electronic ignition systems that run off of 12 volts "CDI"
    when they are just an electronic ignition unit.

    The AC generator is an excited field alternator. In order to put out
    enough electricity to charge the battery and light the headlights, you
    must have a battery installed in the motorbike.

    When you turn on the ignition switch, battery voltage goes through a
    power transistor in the voltage regulator. The voltage goes through
    carbon brushes into the slip rings of the alternator rotor. That turns
    the alternator rotor into a rotating electromagnet when the engine is
    running. The elctromagnetic field induces AC voltage in the stator (the
    part that's not turning). The AC voltage is rectified into DC voltage
    by six power diodes in the voltage regulator (that's the finned
    aluminum thing on the left side of the bike, if you have one). When the
    battery voltage rises to about 15 volts DC because it's being charged
    the power transistor shuts of and 12 volts doesn't go to the brushes
    again until the voltage drops below, say 14.5 volts DC.

    On the other side of the engine there are two signal generator, or
    "pulser" coils that signal the electronic ignition box to cause the
    spark plugs to fire. Those coils only put out about 2 volts, they
    wouldn't qualify as a CDI magneto.

    But, look at the wiring harness coming from the stator of your AC
    generator. Does the connector have three wires going to it, or five
    wires? If it has 3 wires, that's just the ordinary 3 phase wye wound
    stator.

    If it has 5 wires, there may actually be a separate CDI winding in the
    stator. Some Hondas have that. I never saw a Yamaha with DCI yet.

    If you don't have a battery in the system to excite the rotor's field,
    you wouldn't get much voltage out of a separate CDI
    winding. The AC generator's rotor would have to have strong permanent
    magnets installed in the rotor. If you touched a screwdriver to the
    rotor the magnets would grab it and hold it.

    I don't think you actually have a CDI ignition system. CDI magnetos
    send anywhere from 50 to 500 volts to the CDI ignition box. And the
    coils don't get any voltage until the pulser coils tell the coils to
    fire.

    A regular electronic ignition system sends 12 volts to the coils
    anytime the ignition key is on.
     
    krusty kritter, Oct 21, 2005
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