Yamaha - demo ride almost impossible

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by BTB, Sep 17, 2009.

  1. BTB

    BTB Guest

    Hi all,

    What is the story with Yamaha in Melbourne and demo stock for dealers ?

    I want to buy an FZ6S, but I cannot get a convenient demo ride near
    where I live to confirm my chice.

    One dealer said to give him $500 before a ride with a guarantee to buy
    afterward - what rubbish is this ?

    Contacted Yamaha Aust. and they said one dealer many miles away had a
    demo available, but that was too inconvenient for me. They could offer
    nothing else ! They just don't seem to care they've lost a sale !

    What business are they in ?

    Chris
     
    BTB, Sep 17, 2009
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  2. In aus.motorcycles on Thu, 17 Sep 2009 02:21:20 GMT
    Sometimes it's stock, sometimes it's idiot dealers.

    I was offered a 10 minute test ride around city streets for a touring
    bike.

    When I said that's not enough, after 3 days and 2 calls they said I
    could take it for 20 minutes but had to allow a $5000 lien on my
    credit card.

    That was obviously dealer speak for "piss off" so I rang another
    dealer and asked how long a ride I could have. "We close at 4pm on
    Saturday, have it back by then" was the answer.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Sep 17, 2009
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    atec 7 7 Guest

    Funny you say that
    Here in Brisbane when looking at the current ride I rang one dealer
    and he tried the same crap wanting all sorts of stuff then rang one on
    the Gold Coast and enjoyed a 2 hour play
    All they wanted was the drivers license and it made the sale
    the fun was returning to the first idiot and waving with a reminder
    about his lost sale to the principle .
     
    atec 7 7, Sep 17, 2009
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  4. Depends on the dealer.

    I took a Bimota YB5 for a test ride from Gowanlochs in Sydney in the
    80s. It had just returned from a test run from a bike magazine that no
    longer exists. The silly **** reviewer had taken it to Melbourne and
    back via Canberra and down dirt roads over the alps. A Bimota is not
    made for dirt roads you dickhead.

    He hadn't even washed it when he returned it and it had scratches on
    the right hand mirror enclosure. I thought my test ride was going to
    be just around the block. "Nah mate, get it out, go down to Wollongong
    or something".

    ****. No-one accompanying me on a $30,000 bike which was a shitload of
    money in 1988.

    I headed off down the road and realised there was fuckall fuel in it
    and pulled into a servo. The bike was filthy dirty. Brand new bike
    (well til said bike journo got his hands on it anyway) so I then went
    to a phonebox (for you young 'uns, there were no mobiles then, strange
    concept eh?) and rang Gowanlochs and asked if I could hang on to it
    for the day and I'd take it home and wash it. "Yeah, no problems mate.
    Hang on to it for a couple of days and let us know what you think of
    it". Wicked.

    I had not dealt with Gowanlochs before, they didn't know me from a bar
    of soap. They had my VF1000R as collateral I guess, but ****, the
    Bimota was worth 5 times as much as the Honda.

    I probably would have bought the Bimota if the seat wasn't such a ****
    of a thing in traffic, including the heat coming off the engine in
    Sydney traffic. It was a wonderful thing out on the open road though.
    And for its time it was an eye opener in design. I recall meeting
    Kerry at an open air pub on the Sydney North Shore and parking it next
    to Ferraris and the like. There was so much attention on the bike
    rather than the cars it was quite embarrasing. I like stealth.

    But that was a test ride to remember :)
     
    Kevin Gleeson, Sep 17, 2009
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  5. Thought it was well known that you can never trust a Ducati rider with clean
    teeth and slicked hair
     
    George W Frost, Sep 17, 2009
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    Boxer Guest

    When I purchased my last new bike a BMW R1200GSA the dealer gave me the Demo
    for a long weekend, I racked up 1,800 kilometres on the bike to confirm it
    was the one I wanted. No Demo, no purchase in my book.

    Boxer
     
    Boxer, Sep 17, 2009
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    BT Humble Guest

    Try a different dealer.


    BTH
     
    BT Humble, Sep 18, 2009
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    Andrew Price Guest

    Boxer said -
    The way a dealer treats a serious enquiry has a lot to do with how much
    business he writes IMHO.

    Wanted to try the new Honda CBR1000RR with abs the other day - a big step up
    for me and I wanted a few hours on one before deciding. Had to try several
    dealers before I could fix that.

    Still undecided about whether to trade the Trump or not but if I did I would
    go with the dealer who really knew the bike well and was prepared to let me
    get a feel for it.

    Its not just about price.

    Best, Adnrew
     
    Andrew Price, Sep 19, 2009
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  9. That's nice
    because if you are not concerned about the price,
    then you will let me have the Trumpy cheap
     
    George W Frost, Sep 19, 2009
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    Lars Chance Guest

    This can be a very clever ploy to encourage a idle prospective-buyer
    into slamming down his/her money just to "in your face" and show the
    salesman he's serious!
    LC.
    (Sadly; I admit that I've fallen for this trick more than once. The
    worst one only cost me $140,000)
     
    Lars Chance, Sep 22, 2009
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  11. BTB

    BTB Guest

    Well, I'll be signing on the dotted line tomorrow with a shift to Honda.

    Odd feeling as I've been Yamaha since '68, however, as far as I'm
    concerned, Yamaha has lost me for all time.

    Yet, it would have been so easy for them if they had a decent(trained)
    Customer Relations Dept who actually carried out Customer Relations -
    all just bulltish and a waste of time for the customer when it comes
    down to it !

    Chris
     
    BTB, Sep 23, 2009
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    Nev.. Guest

    Sounds like Yamaha should have pissed you off years ago. Me thinks if
    the best bike for you has always been a Yamaha, you haven't been buying
    the best bike for you. I may appear slightly biased, as I've never
    owned a Yamaha, but not because I didn't look at their range.

    Nev..
    '08 DL1000K8
     
    Nev.., Sep 23, 2009
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  13. BTB

    BTB Guest

    You are a negative old bugger ! I'm entitled to my opinion just as
    you've stated yours, however, you summed up your thoughts best with the
    last sentence.
    Even though purile to some, "brand" loyalty did mean something to me
    .......... once.

    Chris
     
    BTB, Sep 23, 2009
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    theo Guest

    I Started with a BSA, then a Lambretta, and two Yamahas. In 1976 I saw
    the light and been riding Guzzis ever since.

    I did buy a couple of Hondas and a Suzuki for the kids to learn on.
    They appeared quite suitable for that. :)

    Theo
     
    theo, Sep 23, 2009
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    When I was a teenager I was a staunch Kawasaki fanatic and then I switched
    to Ducatis in my 20s, Triumphs in my 30s and BMWs in my forties.
    I've also had at least two Yamahas in each of those decades and would have
    had more Yams overall then all the other brands combined!
    I didn't particularly want them.... they were just the best bike at the
    time for the job.
     
    Knobdoodle, Sep 24, 2009
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    Andrew Guest


    Kawasaki in your teens, Ducati in your 20's, Triumph in your 30's, BMW in
    your 40's - you do realise Volvo don't make motorcycles? Just asking!
     
    Andrew, Sep 24, 2009
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  17. BTB

    Knobdoodle Guest

    Now you KNOW you're just being mean and hurtful Andrew!
     
    Knobdoodle, Sep 24, 2009
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  18. In aus.motorcycles on Thu, 24 Sep 2009 09:49:13 GMT
    Easy solution. Just don't sell them!

    Zebee
    - who has not been able to follow that advice often enough. Why do
    they make garages so small?
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Sep 24, 2009
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    Hammo Guest

    Now, now, Volvo make fantastic vehicles. FH12s are my favs.
     
    Hammo, Sep 24, 2009
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  20. BTB

    Knobdoodle Guest

    Well; I've never been particularly attached to the Yamahas so I've had no
    problems selling them.... (and there's always plenty available to purchase
    again when I need one).
    I haven't even bothered selling the latest one as it wasn't taking up much
    space and I didn't really need the cash: good thing as now, 2 weeks from the
    GP trip, the Trump is making some alarming noises and the covers might have
    to come off the XJ once again! (anyone in Brisneyland got a Gearsack they
    don't want?)
    I agonised over selling the Trump, Dukes and BMW though (or the other BMW
    that was taken from me... bloody insurance!)
     
    Knobdoodle, Sep 24, 2009
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