WTF confused..

Discussion in 'Classic Motorbikes' started by Rasman99, Jan 5, 2009.

  1. Rasman99

    Rasman99 Guest

    Why is this POS at 700+ ackers e-bay item 220338112137
    I wouldnt pay that if it worked... but... I may be missing the point.
     
    Rasman99, Jan 5, 2009
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  2. Could be a sandcast-engine bike. As rare as all hell. He's put the
    engine number on show, so my guess is this is it.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 6, 2009
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  3. Rasman99

    Rasman99 Guest

    Ahh.. I wasnt aware of the existence of sandcast-engines let alone them
    having any value. I thought there had to be something going for it given the
    fact it's a total wreck. Thanks, I must do some research.
     
    Rasman99, Jan 6, 2009
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  4. Rasman99

    TOG@Toil Guest

    The very first CB750s had sandcast crankcase engines, because Honda
    wasn't sure at the time whether it was worth tooling up for die
    casting. After about a year or so, they switched to die-casting.

    I've checked the engine number of this one, and yes, it is for one of
    the last sandcast original CB750s. So if it's fully restored, that's
    the difference between £10,000+ and maybe £5,000 for a K1.
     
    TOG@Toil, Jan 6, 2009
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  5. Rasman99

    Rasman99 Guest

    The very first CB750s had sandcast crankcase engines, because Honda
    wasn't sure at the time whether it was worth tooling up for die
    casting. After about a year or so, they switched to die-casting.

    I've checked the engine number of this one, and yes, it is for one of
    the last sandcast original CB750s. So if it's fully restored, that's
    the difference between £10,000+ and maybe £5,000 for a K1.

    You live and learn. Thanks for that :)

    --
     
    Rasman99, Jan 6, 2009
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  6. hehe:

    "Now please note this is an online auction, no a online forum for armchair
    anoraks with little or no knowledge, to inflict your opinion of the bike on
    me because you have just had for Christmas the 'I Spy book of motorcycles'!!
    Save it, go bother someone else, because you people are never right, and you
    are wasting my time!!!! "

    Now, that sounds like a TOG auction.
     
    Austin Shackles, Jan 6, 2009
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  7. Heh. It sounds to me like he knows *exactly* what he has. So he just
    shoved up the picture of the engine number and let the clued-up people
    make up their own minds whether or not to bid.

    And they are.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 7, 2009
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  8. Mind, to restore it to showroom is gonna cost a packet, and you can bet that
    one of the parts is not there and made of unobtanium.
     
    Austin Shackles, Jan 7, 2009
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  9. Rasman99

    TOG@Toil Guest

    Oh yes. ISTR that while subsequent models looked pretty much the same,
    the changes were enormous. The originaql CB750 has different fork
    shrouds, badges, detail changes, a one-into-four throttle cable that
    was a nightmare, etc etc.

    Still, for a dedicated restorer, a "challenge".
     
    TOG@Toil, Jan 7, 2009
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  10. That's what the general opinion is of the Citroen SM, but I'd take one on
    given the chance.
     
    Austin Shackles, Jan 8, 2009
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  11. I *still* remember the first one of those I ever saw. In a ski resort in
    Austria, in 1973.

    I was 15. I did a double-take. It was the most fantastic looking car I
    had *ever* seen. And then I didn't even know it had a Maserati engine.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 8, 2009
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  12. Rasman99

    platypus Guest

    Sarah's cousin has one. I keep meaning to blag a go in it.
     
    platypus, Jan 8, 2009
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  13. they're getting pretty rare, in good order anyway.
     
    Austin Shackles, Jan 9, 2009
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  14. Surprise, surprise.....
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 9, 2009
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  15. Rasman99

    platypus Guest

    This one's an ex-Andrew Brodie car, bought with the intention of running to
    and fro between Berkshire and the Languedoc. As things have worked out,
    it's simply easier, cheaper and more pleasant to fly, and use the old 2CV
    they have at the other end.

    I think the SM is a car to admire rather than love. If I was going to run a
    big Citroën, a CX or DS would be the first choice.
     
    platypus, Jan 9, 2009
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  16. Good CXs are hens-tooth now, too. As for the DS, it'd be good if you wanted
    to pretend to be Inspector Maigret. But the SM is a DS squared :)
     
    Austin Shackles, Jan 9, 2009
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    Adrian Guest

    A Traction'd be even better for that, though.
     
    Adrian, Jan 9, 2009
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  18. There's a *really* nice one parked in a residential street a mile or two
    past the Chateau, near my daughter's school.

    Owner has a second one in his driveway (I assume that's the non-runner,
    project car, or donor for parts).
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 9, 2009
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  19. Rasman99

    Rasman99 Guest

    Like this fellah on e-bay 270325950185.

    An old mate of mine totalled one it was C matic gear change with no clutch
    or similar. It was a 2.4 with el weirdo clocks that floated in a fluid of
    some sort. He got the speedo jammed at 120 which took a bit of explaining,
    that was before he took out 6 concrete bollards which FUBAR'd it shame it
    was super comfy,smooth and quiet.
     
    Rasman99, Jan 9, 2009
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  20. Rasman99

    platypus Guest

    The guy I sold the Wing to had a CX diesel, nice it was, and he gave me a
    lift to the station in it. If I wanted to do a Maigret, I'd have a Light
    15. And the SM is mechanical Russian roulette with a very expensive pistol.
     
    platypus, Jan 9, 2009
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