Why synthetic oil weeps

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by Mike W., Nov 27, 2005.

  1. No shit, Sherlock
    Oh yeah?

    And what about the bikes that have cats?

    "A little learning is a dangerous thing"
     
    The Older Gentleman, Dec 27, 2005
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  2. You really should be more selective in what you bite on.
    Absolutely right. Never owned one myself, but times and oils do change.

    http://www.ibmwr.org/otech/oilreport.html
     
    Rob Kleinschmidt, Dec 27, 2005
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  3. Trolled. And at my age, too....
    Blimey. Interesting, that. Not sure if it's useful, but certainly
    interesting.

    Bugger all about (specific) motorcycle oil additives damaging cats,
    though. Interesting to see the bit about phosphorous levels, although
    that substance is present in both car and bike oils.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Dec 28, 2005
    #63
  4. Sorry. I didn't know it was loaded. Honest !!
    Organic zinc compounds are used as extreme pressure, anti-wear
    additives, and are therefore found in larger amounts in oils
    specifically
    blended for high-revving, turbocharged or racing applications. The zinc
    in your oil comes into play only when there is actual metal-to-metal
    contact within your engine, which should never occur under normal
    operating conditions. However, if you race your bike, or occasionally
    play tag with the redline on the tach, the zinc is your last line of
    defense.
    Under extreme conditions, the zinc compounds react with the metal
    to prevent scuffing, particularly between cylinder bores and piston
    rings.

    [snip]

    As we mentioned, organic zinc compounds are already found in
    virtually every major brand of oil, both automotive and motorcycle.
    However, in recent years the oil companies voluntarily reduced the
    amount of zinc content in most of their products after research
    indicated the zinc was responsible for premature deterioration and
    damage to catalytic converters. Obviously this situation would not
    affect 99 percent of all the motorcycles on the road -- however, it
    could have been a factor with the newer BMW converter-equipped bikes.

    http://www.offroaders.com/tech/snake-oil.htm#four
     
    Rob Kleinschmidt, Dec 28, 2005
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  5. Mike W.

    David Kelly Guest

    Not only that but zinc is "consumed" under those conditions. More zinc
    does not protect from higher pressures/forces, it only protects more
    times when the metal-to-metal condition occurs. With short oil changes
    the amount of zinc doesn't make much difference just so long as there is
    some zinc to start with.
     
    David Kelly, Dec 29, 2005
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