Why keep 2 chevrons apart on motorways?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Mo, Jul 28, 2008.

  1. Mo

    Mo Guest

    You could save paint by halving the number of chevrons and keep one
    chevron apart.
     
    Mo, Jul 28, 2008
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  2. Mo

    Eiron Guest

    You should keep two chevrons apart as if they get together they will
    fight or mate, and you don't want that happening on the motorway.
     
    Eiron, Jul 28, 2008
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  3. I've never seen two chevrons together. They're usually miles apart,
    interspersed with Shell, BP, Tesco, etc.
    --
    Dave
    GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

    "It's a moron working with power tools.
    How much more suspenseful can you get?"
    - House
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jul 28, 2008
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  4. Mo

    Dave Emerson Guest

    Are they sponsored by Citroen?
     
    Dave Emerson, Jul 28, 2008
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  5. Mo

    Paul - xxx Guest

    Or hang the expense and have four chevrons ... the beginnings of a
    parteee ... ;)
     
    Paul - xxx, Jul 28, 2008
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  6. Mo

    Champ Guest

    <takes it all too seriously>

    Are you trying to be funny, or just stupid?
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    Champ, Jul 28, 2008
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  7. Mo

    Colin Irvine Guest

    Well I thought it was amusing - ditto the responses to date.
     
    Colin Irvine, Jul 28, 2008
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  8. Mo

    Mo Guest

    Funny was the intention, although if there was a sensible answer I'd
    like to hear it.
     
    Mo, Jul 29, 2008
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    Jimac Guest

    Err, how do you keep one chevron apart then?
     
    Jimac, Jul 29, 2008
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  10. Mo

    Champ Guest

    The sensible answer is that you don't keep two chevrons apart, you
    keep one 'gap between chevrons' apart, and it takes two chevrons to
    define the gap.

    hth
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    Champ

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    Champ, Jul 29, 2008
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  11. Mo

    daz Guest

    I don't think it's that simple. I suspect we are already expected to
    interpret "please keep 2 chevrons apart" as "please keep 2 times the
    gap between a pair of chevrons apart".

    That is unless the motorway men wan't me to drive a whole lot closer
    than the two second rule at 70 dictates - in which case they must be
    fools.

    If this is correct, which it might not be and I might just be over
    cautious, "please keep 1 chevron" at least makes some sense.

    Darren
     
    daz, Jul 29, 2008
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    MikeH Guest

    It's a zen thing
     
    MikeH, Jul 29, 2008
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  13. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, MikeH
    Once you've mastered that, you'll recognize the sound of one car
    colliding.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jul 29, 2008
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  14. Mo

    Cab Guest

    Replace it with a loooooong chevron.
     
    Cab, Jul 29, 2008
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  15. Mo

    daz Guest

    I think your definition gives the same specified minium distance as
    mine (at least in principle, since yours is defined in terms of what
    the driver can actually see - because the driver's view of a chevron
    immediately in front of his car is obscured by his bonnet, in practice
    he will need to be slightly further away than twice the gap bewteen
    chevrons with your definition).

    I also stand my ground about one chevron - your definition would still
    makes sense if the chevrons were twice as far apart and we were told
    to keep one chevron apart - the "without modifying your distance" and
    "always see at least one" means the driver will need to remain at
    least the gap between a pair of chevrons apart to make sure he can
    always see one.

    christ, I'm dull.
     
    daz, Jul 29, 2008
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  16. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, daz
    Never mind all that. Is it me, or have you been AWOL for a while?

    How the devil are you?
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jul 29, 2008
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    Champ Guest

    eh? But that would mean you could see 3 chevrons.

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    Champ

    ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R 600 racer
    My advice as your attorney is to buy a motorcycle
    To email me, neal at my domain should work.
     
    Champ, Jul 30, 2008
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  18. Mo

    daz Guest

    If your car was see through and you were exactly on top of one, you
    could see three chevrons for an instant, but normally you would only
    see two....

    -->----->----->--C-->----->--C-->----->----
    C = car (pair of, separated by ten ASCII (ignoring thickness of
    chevrons) = two times gap between pairs chevrons)
     
    daz, Jul 30, 2008
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  19. Mo

    Champ Guest

    But your diagram assumes that drivers will add on and extra amount of
    half the distance between chevrons. Why would anyone do this? When I
    drive such that I can see 2 chevrons, it's more like this:

    -->----->----C>----->C----->----->---

    Which means I see two chevrons every so often :)

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    Champ

    ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R 600 racer
    My advice as your attorney is to buy a motorcycle
    To email me, neal at my domain should work.
     
    Champ, Jul 30, 2008
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  20. Mo

    daz Guest

    I think you're right that your diagram matches (at least every so
    often!) the need to be two chevrons apart, and this is why the sign
    wording is not clear as I think what the motorway enginerers really
    want the distance to be is...

    -->----->----C>----->-----C>----->---

    which a moment later will appear as in my original sketch with the
    extra half gaps. Of course the real situation is

    driving lane 1 = CCCCC>CCCCC>CCCCC>CCCCC>CCCCC>
    - - M- - - - - - - M - - -
    - - - -
    driving lane 2 = CCCCC>CCCCC>CCCCC>CCCCC>CCCCC>

    where M = fast moving motorbike

    Darren

    PS WUN - I suspect my common name that has caused you to confuse me
    with someone else
     
    daz, Jul 30, 2008
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