Why is choosing a bike so tricky?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Gyp, Jan 16, 2011.

  1. Gyp

    Lozzo Guest

    Why?

    And when you've explained I'll do my very best to shoot everything
    you've said down in flames.

    --
    Lozzo
    Versys 650 Inter-Continental Hyperbolistic Missile , CBR600F-W racebike
    in the making, TS250C, RD400F (somewhere)
    BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
    they churn out)
     
    Lozzo, Jan 16, 2011
    #21
    1. Advertisements

  2. Gyp

    wessie Guest

    Well, he going to look at a Valkyrie. It might not be Horse's cup of tea
    but it is right up Gyp's street.

    When they first came out in the late 90s I was helping to organise a Honda
    Owners Club test ride day at Moreton in Marsh, with Stritchy of this
    parish. We had Honda's press fleet for a weekend plus some bikes from
    Abingdon. The Valkyrie was very popular with the punters. A mate, in his
    early 30s, normal steed a VFR750FS, commented, "I really enjoyed that: I
    will have one when I'm an old man."
     
    wessie, Jan 16, 2011
    #22
    1. Advertisements

  3. Gyp

    Lozzo Guest

    DL1000s are great bikes. If there had been any available on 0% finance
    when I bought my Versys I'd certainly have thought hard about buying
    one - production stopped just after I bought the Versys and new ones in
    black were a bit thin on the ground when I was looking. The 650 Strom
    is a bit weedy for long distance stuff, but is still a good bike.

    Yesterday I came across a low mileage and very light damaged Cat D
    DL1000 with topbox and panniers that I am sorely tempted to buy.

    --
    Lozzo
    Versys 650 Inter-Continental Hyperbolistic Missile , CBR600F-W racebike
    in the making, TS250C, RD400F (somewhere)
    BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
    they churn out)
     
    Lozzo, Jan 16, 2011
    #23
  4. Gyp

    Simon Wilson Guest

    So it doesn't wheelie, obviously.
     
    Simon Wilson, Jan 16, 2011
    #24
  5. Gyp

    Pete Fisher Guest

    Only two reasons, not having to worry about chain adjustment and wear on
    a long distance trip and taking in to account chain tension on day trips
    from base with perhaps significantly less weight on the back (are modern
    monoshocks quickly adjustable for this like old style girlings or
    Konis?).

    You are going to say just fit a Snotoiler, and how your Versys did X
    thousand miles without adjustment etc. so I've saved you the trouble.


    --
    +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
    | Pete Fisher at Home: |
    | Aprilia Shiver Yamaha WR250Z/Supermoto "Old Gimmer's Hillclimber" |
    | Gilera GFR * 2 Moto Morini 2C/375 Morini 350 "Forgotten Error" |
    +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
     
    Pete Fisher, Jan 16, 2011
    #25
  6. Gyp

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    On a touring bike that I planned on using for long trips I'd go for a
    shaft drive every time but on anything else a chain is better.
    I've fitted a Scottoiler to the Tenere because of the shit conditions
    I'm going to ride it in but otherwise I wouldn't bother.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Jan 16, 2011
    #26
  7. Gyp

    Lozzo Guest

    Probably easier to do nowadays. The bike toolkit has a C spanner for
    the preload, and any damping adjustments can quickly be made using a
    small screwdriver. On the Versys the rear damping is adjusted by using
    a knurled knob on one end of the shock, not that I've ever touched mine
    You answered with one of my responses anyway. A good chain kept lubed
    by a Scottoiler wouldn't need adjustment - mine didn't in all the time
    I was in Europe with far too much gear onboard.

    There's also the awful handling. It's bad enough riding a bike with a
    shedload of kit on the back, but coupled with a shaft drive that's
    pulling this way and that it makes for a bloody horrible experience.

    Then there's the added weight and the amount of power a heavy shaft
    drive saps for no gain.

    Give me a chain drive anyday on any bike.

    --
    Lozzo
    Versys 650 Inter-Continental Hyperbolistic Missile , CBR600F-W racebike
    in the making, TS250C, RD400F (somewhere)
    BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
    they churn out)
     
    Lozzo, Jan 16, 2011
    #27
  8. Neighbour has one and I secretly covet it. Pretty dreadful fuel
    consumption, thobut, or so he says.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 16, 2011
    #28
  9. 'Stroms of both sizes seem to be one of The Bikes Of Choice in Chile.

    Big adventure bikes/tourers are popular. There's a Ducati dealer (one,
    at least, maybe more) in Santiago, plus two Triumph dealers, and at
    loeast a couple of BMW dealers.

    In the towns, everyone rides Chinese 125s, with names like Branson,
    EuroMot, and Takasaki, plus Jinlun and others. A few small-bore Suzukis
    (GN125) and Hondas (CG125). Plus a few mid-size (250-600cc) trail bikes.

    <Makes Sign of Holy Pushrods>[1]

    [1] Reminds me. Spotted this in Mendoza, Argentina, where we spent four
    days for a bit of R&R:-

    http://www.neil_murray.fastmail.fm/LoweredCG125.jpg
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 16, 2011
    #29
  10. Gyp

    wessie Guest

    (The Older Gentleman) wrote in
    they go quite well and can be slung around corners fairly easily. I didn't
    like the riding position. Feet forward with all my weight on my arse
    doesn't suit me. I had backache after a 15 mile test ride.
     
    wessie, Jan 16, 2011
    #30
  11. What, you get paid to send those viagra emails around?
     
    stephen.packer, Jan 16, 2011
    #31
  12. <snip>

    You think that's difficult?

    How difficult is chosing the resultant jewellery going to be?
     
    stephen.packer, Jan 16, 2011
    #32
  13. Gyp

    Gyp Guest

    Bloody iPhone bollokcs
     
    Gyp, Jan 16, 2011
    #33
  14. Gyp

    Gyp Guest

    She's getting return tickets to Orlando and a pearl necklace. Sorted.
     
    Gyp, Jan 16, 2011
    #34
  15. Gyp

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Seeking forgiveness?

    I'm sure a few bits of gold will work out cheaper than a pair of pigs
    in the long run...
     
    Andy Bonwick, Jan 16, 2011
    #35
  16. Gyp

    TMack Guest

    The v-strom's engine is in a different state of tune. It won't deliver
    the SV's top speed (the strom maxes out at about 105mph) but it has a very
    flat torque curve so it pulls strongly up to 90mph. It will sit happily
    at said 90mph indefinitely. It doesn't feel at all "flimsy", handles
    quite well, has a decent sized tank and good mph. I have thrashed mine
    mercilessly in all kinds of weather for nearly 3 years and over 28,000
    miles with no mechanical or electrical problems. I may change it soon for
    something different but that would only be my thirst for variety rather
    than anything negative about the bike.
     
    TMack, Jan 16, 2011
    #36
  17. Gyp

    TMack Guest

    Yebbut mine was new so needed dealer services to maintain the warranty.
     
    TMack, Jan 16, 2011
    #37
  18. Gyp

    TMack Guest

    Have you considered the new Triumph 800s? Initial reviews seem to be VERY
    positive.
     
    TMack, Jan 16, 2011
    #38
  19. Gyp

    Salad Dodger Guest

    No it doesn't - it needs a documented service history - no reason why
    it has to be done by a dealer.
     
    Salad Dodger, Jan 16, 2011
    #39
  20. Gyp

    wessie Guest

    this is not true - EU law does not allow them to make such a condition. You
    must follow the service schedule and use approved parts. A receipt for a
    Suzuki branded oil filter and Halfords oil should be fine to keep the
    warranty valid.
     
    wessie, Jan 16, 2011
    #40
    1. Advertisements

Ask a Question

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments (here). After that, you can post your question and our members will help you out.