Why I ride in Canada - the lowly potato

Discussion in 'Classic Motorbikes' started by sean_q, Nov 30, 2010.

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    sean_q Guest

    Gather 'round, all them as takes an interest, it's history class.

    A victory at the Battle of Pavia in 1525 gave Spain a century
    of military dominance in Europe, even threatening England
    with the Armada of 1588. (Naturally I claim descent from
    a shipwrecked Spanish sailor who married a pretty Irish colleen.)

    Why were the northwestern European nations, especially France
    and England so far behind Spain in becoming colonial powers? [1]

    For instance, Britain's first successful American venture,
    Jamestown was founded only in 1607, more than a century after
    Spain's first New World colony (on Hispaniola, 1493).

    One answer is population size, limited by the food supply.
    The grain harvest becomes more uncertain the further north
    you go. It wasn't until the introduction of potatoes and
    fish from the Grand Banks that the northern European
    populations began to catch up, some of them becoming world
    powers. In fact, fish and chips is still a popular snack
    in England.

    This graph shows the UK population since 43AD:
    http://chartsbin.com/view/28k

    Note several sudden downward glitches. The first one, in the Late
    Middle Ages is the Black Death (bubonic plague) of the mid-1300's.
    The second appears to be WW1. [2]

    The Irish population graph shows an even more (sadly) dramatic story:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Population_of_Ireland_since_1500.png

    "Basque fishermen from Spain used potatoes as ships stores for their
    voyages across Atlantic in the 16th century, and introduced the tuber
    to western Ireland, where they landed to dry their cod." [wp]

    However, over-dependence on one dominant strain of potato rendered
    the Irish vulnerable to blight, which struck in 1845. Within mere
    weeks it spread throughout the land, turning the staple crop into
    inedible mush.

    My great-great-to-the-Nth grandparents decided that enough was enough
    and booked passage to these fair shores. And so here I be, wafted by
    the Winds of Fortune and a humble tuber. I think I'll paint my bike
    emerald green with Celtic artwork and a winged potato. Watch for it
    if you're ever riding through these parts.

    [1] The Tudors seemed to drag their feet on this issue, even
    Good Queen Bess (who inherited a fairly weak nation and built it
    up into a world power). If 'Enerys VII & VIII been a bit more spry,
    Chile and other Latin American countries might be English-speaking
    Commonwealth members today and TOG wouldn't have to order his groceries
    in Spanish when he emigrates.

    [2] Seen in _Punch_ magazine from late in WW1 when a food shortage
    was hurting the Germans: a U-boat surfaces near the English coast.
    Standing on shore is a large anthropomorphic potato, thumbing its
    'nose' at the German.
    U-BOAT CAPTAIN: "Gott strafe England!"
    POTATO: "Tuber uber Alles!"

    Sean P. Quinlan
    Vancouver, BC, Canada
     
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    Gyp Guest

    Thanks for the warning

    <marks thread Ignore>
     
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    ts Guest

    If I should hear sounds reminiscent of "potato-potato potato-potato";
    would it be your bike approaching?
     
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    sean_q Guest

    Heh heh. I had a Harley once, but lost it in the Fiscal Crash of '08.
    And I was gonna decorate it with Celtic artwork, too.

    SQ
     
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    Rusty Hinge Guest

    I'll take this a point at a time: it was a lot less effort and a lot
    less politically incorrect to plunder the returning Dagos than it was to
    plunder the indigenous populations.
    (Colateral observation - using a dongle to get intertubular access, I am
    watching a roe deer foraging around outside in the snow.)

    Britain's ships were about the size of inshore fishing-boats, whereas
    the Spanish cargo ships were larger than ocean-going trawlers, hence
    could carry more materials than the English ones. I use the word
    'English' here, because I'm not aware of much Welsh activity unti the
    time of Captain Morgan (a rum fellow), and Scotland was a separate
    country until early into the seventeenth century. Ireland, IIRC, joined
    the merry throng considerably later, and not entirely vuluntarily, it
    should be said.
    In the case of England, this was not so at the time - it was one of the
    warm peaks in the cycle of the weather, and sub-tropical fruit was
    cultivated outdoors. Vinyards were not uncommon, likewise peaches and
    apricots. Citrus fruits were taken indoors over winter though.

    AFAIK there was never any problem with grain crops due to cold weather -
    wet and wind, certainly, as the shorter varieties of wheat, oats and
    barley had not been bred.
    Potatoes caught on: fish had never been a problem, and had (on and near
    the coast) never been in short supply excpt perhaps during winter
    storms, when fish from further asea than inshore waters would have faced
    the same weather.

    Indeed, very distant and deep-sea fishing was not developed for
    centuries because refrigeration was undreamed-of, and the only way of
    providing ice was to cut it - in England, from frozen lakes in the
    winter, and the blocks stored in semi-underground ice-houses, which were
    heavily insulated by straw (mainly). Only the very rich could afford this.

    It is not beyond the realms of possibility that ice could have been cut
    in Greenland on the outward journey, but, why? the Channel, the North
    sea and the eastern edge of the Atlantic were teeming with fish.
    Ireland's largest export has always been its population. Much of the
    land is unsuitable for European agriculture, and it was only with the
    advent of the potato that a larger amount of the (peaty) soil could be
    exploited.

    Then came the blight.

    Then more exports.
    Shades of the Wooller...
     
    Rusty Hinge, Dec 1, 2010
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    Rusty Hinge Guest

    Spud-spud-spud-spud rather, with Russian overtones in the rocker-boxen
    of vodka-vodka-vodka-vodka...
     
    Rusty Hinge, Dec 1, 2010
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    Rusty Hinge Guest

    Ugly things. Armchairs with rawhide fringes, on wheels.

    It is impossible to decorate one of those slouching lumps with anything
    but a total makeover - implanting the engine into a proper frame with
    proper cyle-parts.

    Even a Featherbed would do at a pinch...

    Now, an Egli(type) Harley might be fun.
     
    Rusty Hinge, Dec 1, 2010
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    sean_q Guest

    Hi Rusty, thanks for your scholarly reply ... I just wanted
    to write a spoof based on some garbled info from
    the History channel on TV.
    Seems to me that political correctness (as we know it today)
    didn't much concern folks back in the days of the Atlantic
    slave trade and other outrages.
    However, I thought the very rich (in Tudor times at least)
    considered sea food to be too low-class and so developed
    iodine deficiencies causing goiter, the reason for those
    ruffed, filly collars.

    SQ
     
    sean_q, Dec 1, 2010
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    Rusty Hinge Guest

    Ah, now that I *LIKE*
     
    Rusty Hinge, Dec 1, 2010
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