Why does DT refuse to run without choke on? General carb question.

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by k.mccready, Aug 16, 2003.

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    k.mccready Guest

    Hey, I need a pointer. I've torn down and cleaned the carb on this DT400
    three times now and it still refuses to run without the choke on. What
    gives? What am I missing? It's so clean in and out that you could eat off
    of it. What causes a carb to refuse to run without being choked? Help?
    Thanks. KM
     
    k.mccready, Aug 16, 2003
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    res0f8mp Guest

    jets clogged, choke is a diff. avenue for gas to get there.
     
    res0f8mp, Aug 16, 2003
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    k.mccready Guest

    Hey, thanks for the posts. Like I said, it's spotless clean--nothing's
    plugged. The float needle is perfect. Someone else suggested an airleak,
    sez it's running wayyyyy toooooo lean. Any thoughts on this? Thanks. KM
     
    k.mccready, Aug 16, 2003
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    k.mccready Guest

    That's two votes for clogged jets, though I've ensured (3x) that they're
    spotless and smoothly clean inside. Funny, too, I always thought that
    chokes dealt with airfllow, rather than gasflow? Like, cupping your hand
    over the throat "chokes" it into starting?

    Someone suggested airleak and lean running prob. Any thoughts there? My
    experience with carbs has been 1. varnished up, 2. clean 'em, 3. lucky they
    run good after that. I've torn the whole thing down, and nothing's clogged.
     
    k.mccready, Aug 16, 2003
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    bob prohaska Guest

    If the engine can be made to idle using the choke it's possible to use
    aerosol carb cleaner to test for vacuum leaks; if you spray a leak the
    engine will speed up a little. It works well on four-stroke engines and
    you only have to test the manifold between throttle valve and head.

    Sounds like you're dealing with a crankcase-scavenged two-stroke. You
    then have to test every seal going into the crankcase...much harder.

    good luck!

    bob
     
    bob prohaska, Aug 16, 2003
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    Ben Kaufman Guest

    <snip>

    The choke decreases air flow into the carb. This increases vaccum pressure
    (negative pressure) within the carb which causes more gas to be sucked out of
    the jets per number of air molecules flowing through, and thus a richer mixture.

    The throttle plate, on the other hand, is below the jets at the bottom of the
    carb. so when the throttle is closed the vacuum increases in the intake
    manifold, not the carb..

    Ben

    Ben

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    Ben Kaufman, Aug 16, 2003
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    k.mccready Guest

    Will check it out. Thanks for the hint. KM


     
    k.mccready, Aug 17, 2003
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    CBXXX Guest

    PILOT JET,clean with guitar wire!

    Thanks,Ripper
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    CBXXX, Aug 17, 2003
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