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Discussion in 'Classic Motorbikes' started by asfdgsgse, May 10, 2005.

  1. asfdgsgse

    Ross Guest

    I'm not that familiar with RD's, but from what I remember of the local lads
    that had them in the late '70's and early '80's they weren't that much
    better than GT's. The Suzi's weren't that much slower on the road, didn't
    handle that much worse, but were cheaper to buy which made them popular
    where I was.

    All the small bikes of that time had their faults and suffered a lot of
    abuse. Any of them can make a fun and pleasant bike to own these days if you
    can find one that hasn't been too badly neglected, especially as you're
    probably not riding in a group of similar machines like you used to when you
    were 17/18.

    Regards
    Ross
     
    Ross, May 12, 2005
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  2. asfdgsgse

    Ross Guest

    :p

    Regards
    Ross
     
    Ross, May 12, 2005
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  3. asfdgsgse

    Lozzo Guest

    Ross says...
    You are having a laugh? The quality of the Yamaha was streets ahead of
    the Suzuki. They were a lot faster, a whole league more reliable,
    better on fuel (which mattered as an apprentice on crap wages), they
    handled far far better than a GT, they had brakes that worked and a
    lubrication system that worked too. Add all that to the fact that the
    RD actually looked like it was designed in the 20th century and it's no
    small wonder the RD sold in far bigger numbers.

    Have you seen just how popular the RD still is and just how big their
    dedicated club is? Is there a dedicated GT owners club that covers the
    200, 250 and 350 variants? I thought not, maybe that might tell you
    something.
    You must have lived in a very depressed area. No-one of any worth
    around our way even looked at the things.
     
    Lozzo, May 12, 2005
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  4. asfdgsgse

    Andy Clews Guest

    Thus spake TOG@Toil unto the assembled multitudes:
    "Knocking" being the operative word, I assume? :)
     
    Andy Clews, May 12, 2005
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  5. asfdgsgse

    TOG Guest

    Mine destroyed its top end (luckily under warranty). The performance
    was OK, but everything about it screamed "cheap". The two-into-one can.
    The missing sixth gear. And especially the blanked-off electric
    starter. It handled better than a G5, but then so did a Raleigh
    Chopper.

    I'd have one as a cheap hack, I s'pose, but my CD200 Benly is nearly as
    fast, more comfy, more economical and tougher.
     
    TOG, May 12, 2005
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  6. asfdgsgse

    TOG Guest

    Lozzo wrote:


    Is there a dedicated GT owners club that covers the
    Means there are more sad bastards like you around ;-)
     
    TOG, May 12, 2005
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  7. asfdgsgse

    Lozzo Guest

    TOG@Toil says...
    *ding*

    Btw, do you see an RD in my .sig? Even I got sick of the fucking things
    cluttering up the garden.
     
    Lozzo, May 12, 2005
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  8. asfdgsgse

    Tim Guest

    I must have been lucky to have had a CB250-K4, funny how it didn't seem
    so at the time.
     
    Tim, May 12, 2005
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  9. A KH250 would piss all over it.

    So to speak.....
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 12, 2005
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  10. asfdgsgse

    Tim Guest

    In message
    Yup had one of them too.
    I think you'll find the Honda leaked more in both quantity and frequency
    :)
     
    Tim, May 12, 2005
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  11. asfdgsgse

    Ross Guest

    As I said, I'm not that familiar with RD's, but that's how I remember it(it
    was a long time ago!). I don't remember getting off an RD250 and thinking
    "that was so much quicker" or handled"so much better" than anything else.
    Certainly there was plenty of scruffy looking Yamaha's about so generally I
    wouldn't say the quality of finish was better than anything else, I seem to
    remember more problems with electric's and seized brake callipers on
    Yamaha's
    than most.Personally I don't like the look of the coffin tank models, I
    always preferred the earlier round tank ones, but styling is subjective.
    Yeah, it's the most popular 250 of the time, I don't dispute that, I'm just
    surprised it's viewed as so far ahead of the others. I don't know about a GT
    owners club, I've never bothered to look, but seem to remember seeing
    something about one for X7's, don't know if that includes the earlier bikes
    or how relevant having an owners club is.
    It wasn't what you would call an affluent area. Also there was more Suzuki
    dealers about than Yamaha ones though, that may have helped.

    Is the spares supply ok for the old RD's these days? I haven't seen any on
    the road for a while. I've not had any problems getting mechanical stuff for
    the GT, but trim and chrome work is getting difficult.

    Regards
    Ross
     
    Ross, May 13, 2005
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  12. asfdgsgse

    Ross Guest

    As you say, the bike was certainly built down to a price, but only had a
    short production run as a stop-gap before the new Dream's arrived. But you
    could argue that the two-into-one exhaust followed the same style as other
    bikes in the range at the same time (550F, 750F1), the cowl behind the seat
    was contemporary, and the quality of finish on Honda's was better than most
    other Jap' manufacturers(but still not great!).
    Still trying to flog it, eh? ;-)

    Regards
    Ross
     
    Ross, May 13, 2005
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  13. asfdgsgse

    Lozzo Guest

    Ross says...
    You could probably build a new one from spares, if you could find
    original mudguards. They are the hardest thing to find nowadays, just
    about everything else is still available fron Mitsui Yamaha or
    specialists who deal solely in RD parts.
     
    Lozzo, May 13, 2005
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  14. That's certainly true. One benefit was it didn't have much chrome on it.

    Given up. The Doctor wants to keep it, so keep it we shall. I'm not
    flogging it for ukp350, which is what somebody eventually offered - it's
    worth more than that to me/us.

    Ho hum. I suppose the CB750F2 will have to go. Someone's offered me a
    grand on it already.
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 13, 2005
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  15. I owned 2, destroyed the first in a spectacular crash[1] and bought
    another some years later which was forever holing the RH piston. Sold
    it before solving that problem.

    [1] For any on lookers, I didn't enjoy it at all
     
    Boots Blakeley, May 13, 2005
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    kenney Guest

    I gave up on Yamaha two strokes when I holed both pistons on an 125
    twin. The previous owner had left the keys out of the timing when he
    reassembled the engine. Mind you it would go a bit it had been tuned
    for production racing.

    Ken Young

    Maternity is a matter of fact
    Paternity is a matter of opinion
     
    kenney, May 13, 2005
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  17. asfdgsgse

    Lozzo Guest

    says...
    So you gave up on the best 2-strokes ever built because someone didn't
    rebuild one correctly....very sensible, I must say.
     
    Lozzo, May 13, 2005
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    doc Guest

    Hmmm. Someone shot the horse so we had to break its leg.

    doc
    1970 Yamaha XS1
    1965 Honda 50 CA110
    1976 Garelli RallySport
     
    doc, May 14, 2005
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  19. asfdgsgse

    asfdgsgse Guest

    I don't think they were as fast as the RD, but most of the RD's round our
    way had knocked off 400 engines in em!! Like most people I'd tuned mine,
    probably slowed it down, again like most people.

    Ah the days of lying flat on the tank (can't do that now, stomach is too
    big!) feet on the rear footpegs, hands up in the air, a following wind,
    downhill, and 100mph on the clock. Those were the days.

    As I recall The speed hierarchy was summat like RD, GT, KH, wasn't it? Can't
    remember where the sensible honda's were :)

    Peter,
     
    asfdgsgse, May 15, 2005
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  20. Yeebut, we all knew that more noise meant it was faster, right?
    Trouble is, I found myself doing that on my old CB750 the other day.
    In the dealers, having their top ends rebuilt.
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 15, 2005
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