Who knows about notice periods and holiday pay?

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    Lozzo Guest

    I'm leaving a shite job with a shite employer after 9 months, to take up
    a proper sales job. My current boss told me he expects me to give 4
    weeks notice, which I laughed at and told him he'll get a week as that
    is all I am obliged to give by law. He then implied that if I didn't
    give 4 weeks notice then they would dock my holiday pay to make up the
    difference, as if I was taking holiday in lieu of notice. I think he's
    under the impression that what he told me about notice periods etc is a
    verbal contract, despite me not agreeing to it or seeing it in writing.

    I haven't seen, let alone signed a contract in 9 months, and terms and
    conditions of employment have been dropped in as we went along. I was
    told I was entitled to 20 days holiday per year, starting on January
    1st.

    I leave my job on 13th July and start the new job on 19th. Can my
    employer deduct the holiday pay in lieu of notice?
     
    Lozzo, Jul 6, 2004
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    Teal'C Guest

    depends on country and newsgroup
    try one of the legal ones mate
     
    Teal'C, Jul 7, 2004
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    riccip Guest

    It's complicated but basically if you've worked for 9 months he's
    only obliged to pay you 15 days, less any days you've already
    taken. Anything above that is good will. He's saying that if you
    hold him to the rules re notice then he'll do the same with your
    HP. However by law he should have given you a written T&C
    statement after 2 months. You should really talk to the Citizen's
    Advice.

    http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/life/employment/holidays_and_holiday_pay.htm

    riccip
     
    riccip, Jul 7, 2004
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    Fr Jack Guest

    Wrong. Some firms put this into their written contracts, but you
    usually accumulate it as you go along.
     
    Fr Jack, Jul 7, 2004
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    Mike Fleming Guest

    I think that's what gazzafield was saying - after your first year is
    complete, you're entitled to a full 20 days, but after six months,
    you're only entitled to half that. So you're not entitled to the full
    20 days after working there just a month.
     
    Mike Fleming, Jul 7, 2004
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    The Smiths Guest

    If the boot was on the other foot, how would you feel if you were given 1
    weeks notice to quit?

    From the ACAS site:
    Statutory rights to notice
    Most employees (8) are entitled to at least one week's notice after one
    month's service, two weeks after two years and an additional week's notice
    for each complete year of employment up to a maximum of 12 weeks for 12
    years' service. An employee must give at least one week's notice after one
    month's service and this requirement does not increase with longer service.

    A contract of employment can include provision for longer notice periods to
    be given by either side. In addition, both employer and employee may agree
    to waive their rights to notice or employees may accept wages in lieu. If
    there is no express term regarding notice the courts will imply a reasonable
    period of notice. No term is implied in fixed-term contracts.

    http://www.acas.org.uk/publications/H03.html#6
     
    The Smiths, Jul 7, 2004
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    TTT Guest

    My friend was sued for the cost of hiring a temp to do his job after he did
    this. He lost the case and had to pay up.
     
    TTT, Jul 7, 2004
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    Lozzo Guest

    The Smiths says...
    If I was paying someone what this bloke pays me, then I'd expect him to
    walk out the moment the new job offer, which is worth lots more money,
    arrived in his sticky mitts. Would you stick around earning shite money
    doing something you hate for someone you've grown to dislike, when
    there's real dosh to be made doing what you love and what you're good
    at?

    I think not.
     
    Lozzo, Jul 7, 2004
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    YTC#1 Guest

    If the job was that bad you did not need to take it, or stay more than a
    week. He has at least been paying you some money. As you do not get on
    with him , it is only making the matters worse.

    Offer the notice period, less the pro-rata amount of days off owing too
    you. That is all that is needed.

    When I left Triplex after 8 years, I handed my 4 weeks notice in, then
    booked 2 weeks holiday owed to me. I was prepared to throw away another
    week of hours owed to make sure I handed over during the remaing 2 weeks.
    So they bent the rules and paid me for the week owed.

    It helps to part on good terms.
     
    YTC#1, Jul 8, 2004
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