Whimper...

Shit.. is that what you're paying someone who does know it, or the rate
you'd pay for me bullshitting?

Crikey, I might just stick with the current job whilst they have me if the
rate out there is now £12p/h...

 

Heh, a mate of mine bought a Norton Comando in boxes... built it in
his bedroom... took 6 months... couldn't get it down the stairs, or at
least, not down the turn half way down the stairs... not in one piece
anyway...

Oh how he laughed.....
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Has it got a left footswitch?

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It's different from what you intended to end up with.

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I'd pay more. But. Some people wouldn't.

I've seen decent rates too, but yes, I've seen contracts on Jobserve
offering £12p/h and demanding 10 years of experience and a 10-line
skill set.

 

Yeah but those are the ones aimed at the other foreigners aren't they? Who
think £12p/h is shit hot.

 

"the other foreigners". Heh.

 

I've recently been back to SA, and it reminded why I don't want to be
thought of as 'British' quite yet.

 

So when are you going back to live?

 

Well, that's close, but Owen's "mate" wins this prize...

 

Note I said "thought of" not "live here".

I'm quite happy to take your jobs, steal your woman and ride your
motorcycles for the near future.
I'll even pay tax on some of the above.

I just don't want to be (even more) grumpy, rude, morose or have a vastly
overinflated view of my self-importance.

SA was friendly, London is not [1]

[1] Note London. Didcot is more friendly, but there are a still a shed load
of people who, quite frankly could disappear, without the slightest
negative difference being experienced, unless you happen to like the
windowless & vandalised look.

 

IME The further away from London you get the more time people seem to
have for each other. Maybe it's down to the lack of electricity and
running water up north, or something.

 

Strangely enough, I was moved to remember today a project I considered

A couple of years ago I visited an engineering company that had just
installed the latest in German machine tools. One of the machines
just blew me away.

I was given a demonstration: It was amazing what this puppy could do.

The guy had done a 3d design in Autocad, saved this to a drive on the
miller, then hit the "Go" button.

The machine had mutilple turrets, each having several types of tools
on each one. These were on Hydraulic arms and working over the
clamping area.

When it started, one of the arms swung off, found a blank from a
series of predertimined blocks, swung back, clamped it and set about
milling, drilling, reaming it rotating as needed.

Amazing to watch.

 

Or way down south...

 

It is.

 

Such a programme exists and is in use by Sunderland technical college
as an aid to programming. I did have a copy at one time but I think it
ended up in the attic at our last move

 

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 01:10:46 +0000, Nigel Eaton

ROTFLMAO

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I've been trying not to, you know.

I've been trying very very hard not to do what you've just done.

I think I've swallowed my tongue and burst several capilliaries in my
cheeks, I've been trying so hard.

To no avail - whatsoever ;-)

On a positive note, Nigel - you don't have to cut it down, do you?
When you/we pull the end off your workshop for the extension, we can
just slip it in through the open side, like. If you can wait ...

 

Oh! Of course. :-\

 

This is Known as 'Constructive Solid Geometry Modelling'

Try:

Unigraphics
Pro/Engineer (ptc)
IDEAS
CATIA
SolidWorks

and others.

The market is fairly sparse- each of the programms mentioned above
will cost (UG, which I use at work is 9k USD per seat per year,
without any of the interesting modules, like Die-making, FEM analsysis
etc.).

You can go one further than what you suggest - instead of making the
part as you would in real life, you can simply drag and click the part
together from a load of features that you would just not be able to do
in real life (XOR, OR, AND and other logical functions on various
combinations of solid objects), and then take the part, define bar
stock and tools available, and get a ready-made CNC programm, which,
if you have the right set-up, you can email to the machining centre in
question and have the part in front of you by the time you make it to
the machine shop.

You can automagically create 2d drawings from the 3d solids, including
auto-tolerance and other stuff that Never Works How You Want It, check
assembly clearances and change the colour to 'chrome' and reflect your
favourite JPG in the part as you rotate it on the screen.

Most amusingly, those systems interface with SAP and other
Product-Document-Management systems, so you can exchange data and
parameters between the Stores Database and the 3d Package - parts
'know' their part numbers and weights, so that logistics can
auto-select the right container and quantities. Or at least that is
the theory. You can also, theoretically, trace which design level went
into which product and you can document the entire process from first
Idea to decomissioning.

I don't make drawings for the castings I need at work. I send off a 3d
file to the foundry, they cut the die to that 3d file, and send me the
part, without a drawing for the part having ever existed.

HTH

Johannes