which tyres?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Neil, Feb 17, 2005.

  1. Neil

    Neil Guest

    Time for a change of rubber on my RSVR and can't decide which tyres to get
    so looking for recommendations.

    Currently running the standard fitment super corsas which are terrifying in
    the cold and wet. Not into track days so purely after a good road tyre.
    Decent milage from them an advantage but not a must. The 3 sets I've been
    thinking of are the Diablo Corsas, BT 012's & D208's. Had BT010's on a
    previous bike and liked them if that helps.

    Also what advantages/disadvantages of running a 190 opposed to a 180 on the
    rear?

    TIA

    Neil.
     
    Neil, Feb 17, 2005
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    darsy Guest

    Metzeler Rennsports.
    tyre.

    Oh. Not Rennsports then. Whilst not the most terrifying tyres I've used
    in the wet (that honour goes to Michelin Pilot Races), not a good
    alround tyre if you intend to regularly ride in the wet.
    D207RRs. Without doubt.
    costs more, slower steering.
     
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  3. Neil

    WavyDavy Guest

    Would contradict this:
    But not this:
    Why not try standard Diablos?
    In simplest terms a 180 will give easier turning and probably have a geater
    contact patch if the rim is designed for it - a 190 would 'pinch' and give
    less contact/less grip.

    Dave
     
    WavyDavy, Feb 17, 2005
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  4. Neil

    dwb Guest

    BT014's, you'd get similar mileage to the 010's.
     
    dwb, Feb 17, 2005
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  5. Neil

    Neil Guest

    No reason. Never had them and so far only got what I've read to go on.
    I thought slowing the steering down would be the main thing, just wondering
    what else. Both 180 (55) & 190 (50) are recommended fitment for the rims.

    Thanks,

    Neil.
     
    Neil, Feb 17, 2005
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  6. Neil

    Neil Guest

    What about the D208? Can get them supplied and fitted for £180 odd for the
    pair.
     
    Neil, Feb 17, 2005
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  7. Neil

    Neil Guest

    Just been ringing around the local bike shops and the bridgestone prices are
    all horrendous. £240 upwards a pair + fitting :( That's for 012's mind.
    Seems they all have deals with Dunlop & Michelin up here.

    I know i can mailorder a set of 012's for £175 delivered but then I get
    shafted for fitting (most quoting £70 upwards if I supply and they fit).

    Robbing twats the lot of them.

    Neil.
     
    Neil, Feb 17, 2005
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  8. Neil

    darsy Guest

    I've not tried them - I wouldn't recommend tyres I haven't tried. I've
    had D207RRs on both my Fireblade and my ZX7R, and they're brilliant
    all-round tyres. I have Rennsports on the 'blade now, because I never
    intend to use it in the wet, and in the dry, Rennsports seriously spank
    any other tyre I've tried for grip and feel.

    BTW, If you check Dunlop's own website fitment guide, they D207RRs are
    their first recommendation for your bike.
     
    darsy, Feb 17, 2005
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  9. Neil

    Lozzo Guest

    darsy says...
    I had them on my Thunderace and my Firestorm. I loved them. My 9R may be
    getting those when the standard type D207s it has are knacked.
     
    Lozzo, Feb 17, 2005
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  10. Neil

    dwb Guest

    Where the heck are you based that have people charging that?

    Are you trying main dealers? If so, don't - try specialist tyre fitters -
    they're a lot cheaper.

    I got the set of 014's I have (180 rear) supplied and fitted for about £190.
     
    dwb, Feb 17, 2005
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  11. Neil

    Monz Guest

    On my TLS the 180 used to make the bike fair fall into corners but it always
    felt not quite right to me and would never go knee downing on a 180. The 190
    did slow the lean rate but made the whole bike feel more planted and
    supplied the confidence for slider scraping antics. The gixer has a 190 on
    and feels fairly quick to lean in so I suppose a lot depends on the bike
    too.
     
    Monz, Feb 17, 2005
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  12. Neil

    Neil Guest

    Fair point mate.
    their first recommendation for your bike.

    Already did but actually it's the 208 that's the 1st on. It's the R version
    I have, 207RR is 1st on the standard RSV list though. Think I'll opt for the
    207RR's though. I'll send you the bill if I bin it in the wet ;)

    Neil.
     
    Neil, Feb 17, 2005
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  13. Neil

    Neil Guest

    Glasgow. Robbing bastard award goes to Victor Devines - Diablo Corsas....

    £106.31 F, £143.89 R + fitting at £26 + VAT F & £28 + VAT R.

    Grand total of £313.65 for 2 rubber bands!
    £190.

    Ride-On up here can do me 208 or 207's for about the same as that (£190 not
    £313) so will probably go with them.

    Neil.
     
    Neil, Feb 17, 2005
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    darsy Guest

    ah - I missed the point that you had an R. Presumably the 208 is
    considered slightly sportier than the 207RR then?
    heh - all I can say is that I found 207RRs more confidence inspiring in
    the wet than BT010s.
     
    darsy, Feb 17, 2005
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    simonk Guest

    I'd be tempted to go for the Diablos or BT010s. D207RRs are popular, but
    seem really sensitive to tyre pressure. According to people on rsvr.net,
    they also feel a bit "tucky" on the mille - I've noticed this a bit myself,
    but having only had the 207RRs, couldn't tell whether it's the
    bike or the tyres. People who don't use D207RRs seem to use Pirelli of one
    sort or another, if the various forums are to be believed.

    I've had BT010s on 2 previous bikes and they were great - not sure if
    they're Bridgestones most modern rubber any more, though. Weirdly, though,
    in the manual, Aprilia recommend tyres from all manufacturers *except*
    Bridgestone.
    More stable, but slower steering with a 190 rear, seems to be the received
    wisdom.
     
    simonk, Feb 17, 2005
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  16. Neil

    'Hog Guest

    The new BT014 is excellent if a little pricey.

    'Hog
     
    'Hog, Feb 17, 2005
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  17. Neil

    Daz Guest

    A lot of racers use 207RRs as inters due to their heavy cut but they
    don't really cut it on anything above a 600 for dry use on the track.

    The 208 was supposed to be the replacement for the 207 but Dunlop
    don't seem to have any intention of stopping manufacture just yet.
     
    Daz, Feb 17, 2005
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  18. Neil

    darsy Guest

    well, I'm not a racer obviously, but the above statement helps confirm
    my intention to get an extra set of wheels for the 7R, so I can easily
    change between Rennsports (dry) and 207RRs (damp). I doubt I'm serious
    enough to want a third set with full race wets.
    if people are buying them, why would they stop making them?
     
    darsy, Feb 17, 2005
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  19. Neil

    darsy Guest

    up to a point, sure. Replacing a well-selling product with an
    "improvement" can be a disaster - remember "New Coke"?
     
    darsy, Feb 17, 2005
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  20. I found I could take it or leave it so I didn't bother.
     
    Whinging Courier, Feb 17, 2005
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