Which is the best product to Lube a motorcycle chain

Let me get this straight.

You made (yet another) completely inane technical error. You then asked
where you'd made it. This was pointed out. And you call me a troll?

This, from the man who has morphed his identity at least four times, to
try and hide his behaviour?

Please, seek help.

 

Albrecht schreef:

Nonsence.

Rob.

 

Schweet. What do you plan to make it out of? Sheet metal? Plastic sheet?

I've seen "T" style strip seals that you can rivet to one half, check
usplastic.com or maybe mcmaster.com for ideas.

How do you plan to do the attachment to the swingarm? Use the standard
chain-guard fittings?

-gc

 

Most people don't realize how much oil is in rubber. The oil extends
the dynamic range of elasticity of the rubber compound. If you ever
ride a sport tire hard enough to cause the oil to boil out of the
rubber, it leaves a blue sheen on the tread and in the grooves.

They think that rubber is black, too. It's not.

About 30 years ago, recycling companies were gathering up all the old
tires they could find and they were grinding them up and reclaiming
the oil in the rubber. Nowadays, old tires are ground up and burned
under controlled conditions to fire a steam plant.

I was watching a TV show about how rubber is milled. The guy
demonstrated the rubber mill had a cart with a bag of tan rubber
pellets, some clear plastic pellet, a bag full of brown oil, and some
carbon black.

The rubber mill mixed the oil and everything into the rubber. It was
like a taffy making machine.

 

Yep. I got the same accumulation of that greasy snot when I was using 90w
gear oil. But the chain didn't last as long.

Soap and water, elbow grease, and persistence.

-Scott

 

Note to self: don't do meta-irony with the Brits

(this too, was a joke, btw)

--
Later,
John



'indiana' is a 'nolnn' and 'hoosier' is a 'solkk'. Indiana doesn't solkk.

 

If you do a good enough job, and maybe make some jigs so duplicates can
easily be made, you could make some money out of that.....

 

Ah!

 

Further to previous postings, can I suggest you Google for "Peter
Furlong chaincase"?

In the 1970s, Pete Furlong was a Brit who made some excellent chain
enclosures for Jap bikes of the era. His unit for the Honda 400 Four
was particularly popular, and good examples command quite hgh prices
today. ISTR he used clasps to hold the two halves together.

Furlong was a useful dirt rider in his day, and he emigrated (I
think), thereby closing down the company.

Of course, in those days, a lot of big Jap bikes had tiddly little
chains (think CB750) and so anything that prolonged their life was a
Good Thing. Modern large O-ring chains last ages (I think I adjusted
the one on my Triumph 1200 Trophy maybe two or three times in three
years and 13,000 miles), but for engines that give a chain a beating
(vee-twins! and singles) or for bikes that are likely to be used on
unsurfaced roads from time to time (V-Stroms!) they're still likely to
find friends.

And as we've discussed, any bike would beenfit from an enclosed chain.

 

'02 SV and an '05 DL-650 aka "the comfortable SV"

Shoot, there's a ton of exhausts that use springs. Simple and effective
with a constant positive lock.

If Honda can use a rubber o-ring for a rear brake return on their MotoGP
bike, you're allowed to use springs.

-gc

 

The Older Gentleman wrote

I use Q-Tips for that, with a home-made blend of lard, moly grease,
powdered graphite and fish oil. Doesn't take long. Not much more than
six hours.

 

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Once again, I must reiterate that my perspective is from riding trail
and various cross country races. Nasty, dirty conditions. This makes
the chain wax a liability to my use.

On the street side of things, mud on the chain would not be quite the
same problem as where I do most of my riding. The chain wax is a
pretty good cushion between the chain and sprockets, but I am not
convinced of it's lube quality.

I've been personally using
http://www.motul.com.au/product_line_up/fork_brake_others/others08.html.
When it dries, it is not gummy at all.

and this is what I am currently using:
http://www.gokartsrus.com/silkolene-pro-chain-lube-p-5920.html?osCsid=2ccfa40f9f
Dirt doesn't seem to stick to it very much. (my observation)
Ad copy:
Silkolene Pro Chain
100% synthetic non-fling racing chain lubricant. An exceptional chain
lubricator! Molecular bonding resists high speed fling-off. A clear,
clean product with excellent anti-wear and anti-corrsion properties

Please remember that I speak from a dirt riding perspective.


Wudsracer/Jim Cook
Smackover Racing
'06 Gas Gas DE300
'82 Husqvarna XC250
Team LAGNAF

 

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Maybe you could use a couple of universal atv cv joint "boots". They
come in different sizes, and are only around $11 each.


Wudsracer/Jim Cook
Smackover Racing
'06 Gas Gas DE300
'82 Husqvarna XC250
Team LAGNAF

 

I have a Scottoiler on my SV1000S. It still has the original chain
having done over 15,000 miles and it looks as though it will do a few
thousand more.

Leon

 

I got over 25,000 miles out of the original chain on my SV650S
using a Scottoiler. The main benefit as I see it is that I don't
remember having to adjust the chain except when I changed tires.

 

Possibly because you searched on google.com and not .co.uk? Even
on .co.uk there are only a couple of passing references, mind.

 

Rick Cortese wrote

How many hides does it take to make some really cool leathers?

 

I know you think you are being funny, but you have probably never
smelled rotten seal oil in your life. Gawd, it is disgusting.

Makes me wonder what people did to clean their oil lamps in the 1800's
before petroleum oil replaced whale oil. And what did their houses
smell like inside?

Even today, the size of a barrel of petroleum oil is only 40 gallons,
not 55 gallons as many people assume, because whale oil was stored and
shipped in 40-gallon barrels back in the days of Captain Ahab and
Ishmael and Queequeg the tattooed cannibal.

California has periodic algal blooms in the ocean that are called "red
tides". The water turns reddish brown and even glows in the dark from
biophosphorescence. Fishermen are warned not to eat shell fish during
months that don't have an "R" in the name. And they can poison
themselves by eating fish they catch in the surf or off the pier.

Huell Howzer was down at Torrey Pines State Beach Park wading in the
surface and remarking on how pretty the red tide was and the park
ranger was telling Huell that it was perfectly safe to swim and surf
in that water.

Safe? Red tide is deadly to marine mammals and pelicans and other
seabirds.

The algal bloom is caused by phosphates in fertilizer used by farmers.
It washes into the ocean and the red algae blooms enormously and then
the microscopic animals in the water eat the algae. Fish like
anchovies, sardines, top smelt, etc., eat the plankton.

Pelicans and cormorants and seals and sea lions eat the fish and they
are poisoned, It's called biomic acid posioning and it attacks the
animal's central nervous system. It can't swim very well, so it
beaches itself, then it can't breathe and it dies.

So I was walking from the Ventura river towards Emma K. Wood State
Beach Park and I saw the sea gulls and buzzards tearing at a
decomposing dead elephant seal. There were also two dead dolphins and
three dead sea lions on the same beach that day.

About 1000 marine mammals died that year. The ocean smelled like a
giant kitty litter box that hadn't been cleaned recently.

The elephant seal's oil was coating the beach cobbles and turning them
black and the decomposing oil was disgusting.

I picked up a rock to throw at the seagulls and immediately regretted
that, because the rock was covered with decomposing seal oil.

Yes, seal oil definitely sticks to whatever it contacts. I used beach
sand to scour my hand until I could get to a rest room and use
soap and water.

 

Albrecht wrote
(snip

We had a Torrey Canyon Beach Park for a while and it was horrible.

 

Actually no, it's 42 gallons measured at a temp of 60F and has been that
way since at least 1873, which was the last time the Federal Government
measured oil in 40 gallon barrels.

It's because the state of Virginia act of 23 February, 1631-32, ordained
that a barrel of corn should contain 5 bushels Winchester measure, which
is 40 gallons.

"The probable origin of the 42-gallon petroleum barrel is that in 1866
the producers added an extra 2 gallons to a 40-gallon barrel when they
switched to selling by the gallon. (When the basis on which a commodity
is measured changes, it is not uncommon for sellers to give buyers a bit
extra to allay the buyers' apprehensions, and sometimes these allowances
become frozen into the value of a unit. Compare the addition of an extra
4 pounds to each 100 when London began to enforce exact weight in 1256."

Or so says Encyclopedia Britannica, and the World Book Encyclopedia.

As usual, you're bullshitting.

According to the National Institute of Health, it's called Ciguatera
and/or Scombroid poisoning. BIOMIC is a computer system for measuring
the rate of mold growth on an agar plate. Neither Google or Perry's
Chemical Engineer's Handbook know of "biomic acid"

Jesus Christ, buckwheat.

Not only is it bullshit, but 30 seconds with Google, an encyclopedia or
a reference handbook shows it's bullshit.

-gc