Which commuter bike?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by elyob, Sep 7, 2006.

  1. elyob

    elyob Guest

    It's been a few years since I last owned a bike, having relied on public
    transport, bicycling and nabbing my brothers car. I've now got a new job
    which will involve 30 miles each way of heavy traffic, and M3 or A3.
    Basically, from Kingston-upon-Thames to Basingstoke. To start I'll get a
    train over, but am playing with the idea of commuting by bike and am
    wondering what bike to get. Friends are saying BMW GS650, although I quite
    like the look of a Valdaredo. Of course there may be even more suitable
    bikes which you guys may be able to recommend. I'm 6ft and pretty heavily
    built.

    Having not had a bike for so long, and I was pretty young then, I'm out of
    experience on what equipment I would need. I would need everything, from
    clothing to security stuff. I'd also be looking to get a loan to cover it
    all. So, what's the best bike, the best deal I can get etc?

    Thanks
     
    elyob, Sep 7, 2006
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    Lozzo Guest

    elyob says...
    Used CB250RS
     
    Lozzo, Sep 7, 2006
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    BGN Guest

    The GS650 doesn't have much oomph and might be a bit tall for a short
    fatty.

    I suggest you visit a motorcycle dealer and have a look around at a B6
    or something similar which you might enjoy a bit more

    Clothing: Motorcycle shop
    Security stuff: Motorcycle shop
    Loan: Motorcycle shop

    If you get the bike, clothing, etc. from the same motorcycle shoppe
    then you might even get a discount on the clothing, helmet, etc as
    they're quite high profit.
     
    BGN, Sep 7, 2006
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    Chris Cowley Guest

    Hyosung Aquila GV125. I know a very nice man in Kingston who has one for
    sale, and I'm not just saying that for my own benefit. Oh alright then,
    I am.
     
    Chris Cowley, Sep 7, 2006
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    Moon Badger Guest

    A Transalp seems almost made for the role, but you would probably get bored
    with it. You'd get less bored with an Africa Twin or Super Tenere.

    A DL650 would be a better bet as it copes better with motorways. Soft
    roaders handle and brake far far better than most folk realise and they are
    very comfy. Bit wide at around Transit door mirror height though.

    The single cylinder soft roaders lack top end, but are great fun around
    town. You'd get bored.

    More road oriented, Bandit, Hornet, Fazer, Z750, ER6 and bikes of that ilk.

    Suzuki are offering 0% on their range of middleweights, hence me getting a
    Bandit for work, commute and a bit of fun. I'm not the most svelte of frame
    and it copes well enough. Actually, it is a bloody good bike.

    As for clothing and stuff, BGN has already replied and I can't argue against
    his logic. The margins on clothing, locks etc will allow you to get a good
    discount if it is bundled with the bike.

    As for security, datatag and a bloody good lock and chain backed with a
    U-lock. Try to ensure you lock the bike to something other than itself, and
    use the chassis, not the wheels if possible. Don't let the lock or chain
    dangle near the ground. Use the U-lock through the front wheel and around
    the fork legs. You can't really do much more.

    Other accessories to consider include heated grips and a chain oiler.
     
    Moon Badger, Sep 7, 2006
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    Tim Guest

    Supermoto such as KTM.
     
    Tim, Sep 7, 2006
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  7. elyob

    Timo Geusch Guest

    Tim was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:
    Sixty mile roundtrip on a 7l tank doesn't sound like that good an idea
    to me.
     
    Timo Geusch, Sep 7, 2006
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    Nursey Guest

    Yep, better put that flameproof suit on. The Dullsville will commute
    happily, but for anything else, don't bother. Mine managed to get me to
    the South of France and a couple of the French Runs here without a
    problem, but it was a literal pain in the arse.
     
    Nursey, Sep 7, 2006
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    Tim Guest

    Tank is good for 85 miles before reserve on my one. It'll survive the
    winter and the plastics are cheap. Much better than risking something
    expensive.
     
    Tim, Sep 7, 2006
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    Jim Crowther Guest

    On Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:05:49, elyob wrote:

    []
    Cat amongst pigeons...

    Consider a maxi-scooter such as the Piaggio X9 250. Great weather
    protection, good top speed (~90), good mpg, no gears in traffic (CVT). A
    daily commuter PTW does not have to be a geared bike, and can be just as
    much if not more fun, albeit in a different guise.

    Mint 2nd-hand examples with warranty still in place from ~GBP1300.

    Mark you the 500 is a far bigger grin-factor...
    .... but the 250 is definitely the best all-rounder.

    As for protection, on a bike scooter like that, you're not very
    concerned about bangs and bruises, only about scrapes. This is because
    as long as you hang on inside the frame of the bike, you are protected
    by that metal.

    Security? They are never nicked. Inbuilt immobiliser, and in the UK no
    demand for spares such that the "SHITS" get involved. So cheap
    insurance.

    Just a thought, it's still two wheels, and it won't upset those
    lower-back problems on a day-to-day basis...
     
    Jim Crowther, Sep 8, 2006
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    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Sep 8, 2006
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  12. elyob

    elyob Guest

    Is there a really good bike site where I can compare the prices, and all the
    other bollocks of the bikes? The manufacturer websites are pretty poor. The
    Honda wedsite at least showed the RRP.
    Honda (Tippets) are just down the road, so that's a big plus. I think I also
    have to consider locality of dealership/garage.
    I do want an all-round bike. Holidays abroad, carry luggage and tent etc,
    but full commuter too. Transalp was always one of my favourites ...
    That's a very big plus. I think Honda are getting my thumbs up at the
    moment. Can I haggle 0% if I'm buying the whole shop?
     
    elyob, Sep 8, 2006
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    Lozzo Guest

    Moon Badger says...
    New Bandits corrode like ****. Tori, my girlfriend, has one that is just
    over 10K miles and 12 months old that she's owned from new and just
    about everything that can corrode has. Also, the paint has worn away
    where her right knee touches the frame rail. I have an abused '98 model
    65K mile old Bandit 600 that for most of its life has sat outside and
    been ridden in all weathers. It rarely gets washed but even that is
    standing up to the ravages of time better than her 650 is.

    I thought Suzuki scrimped on the original model, but it was seeing how
    Tori's has suffered in such a short time that has steered me away from
    buying a brand new Bandit and towards something older but much better
    built.
     
    Lozzo, Sep 8, 2006
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    The minimal tank range was pretty much my point - I commute by bike and
    I find the need to fill up every day somewhat annoying.
     
    Timo Geusch, Sep 8, 2006
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    BGN Guest

    Solution: Don't fill it up every day.
     
    BGN, Sep 8, 2006
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    SD Guest

    Or: Don't live in the arse-end of nowhere.
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    SD, Sep 8, 2006
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