Where was the anticipation here?

FFS.

And yes, I have a Primera too, and so I *know* you're talking bollocks.
It's a decent handling car, but it isn't that good.

I suppose everyone has their favourite corner, which is used as the
benchmark test spot. Mine's the M25--->A21 exit, heading anti-clockwise
on the M25, so you have the 270 degree left-hander.

Corner speeds noted so far (before bottle ran out):

BMW K1100LT: something over 60mph. I'm sure it will do better than that,
with new tyres, and with nice warm summer tarmac, but that's it for the
moment.

Ducati 750SS: 70+, with something *just* touching on the exit of the
bend.

Primera: 65, and it's starting to lose shape.

 

*Fabulous* expression.

 

To be fair, he knows slightly less than **** all about cars, so
expecting him to know even a little about bikes is pushing things.

 

Ahem. Between me and you, and the rest of the fools out there who have
to slam on their brakes into corners but otherwise have excellent
straight line acceleration....

Im not saying the car is that good, but, I am that good

Cya
Simon

 

As I suspected. Well, as Pip says, he's a poor troll, so I'll chop this
thread now.

 

Not so much trolls , but almost everyone there is convinced that they are
absolutely perfect when behind the wheel and everyone else is incompetent
beyond belief. Every time someone admits to having made the most minor of
errors , the usual suspects will pop up insisting that they cut up their
licence and post it back to the DVLA.

They also start foaming at the mouth if you mention the possibility of a
road being Dangerous. :0)

--
Alex

"I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away"

www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk

 

Conor says...

I've never met a Yorkshireman with sufficient brains to know how to take
the piss.

--
Lozzo
Triumph Daytona 955i SE (Black with added black bits)
Suzuki Bandit 600S (Green with added shit bits)
Yamaha SR250 Delusion (It's "Special")
Homefucking is killing prostitution.

 

Before you do....

He's not a troll (I read 'the other place'), he's just an irritating
fuckwit.

 

Raymond Keattch secured a place in history by writing:

Aaah, it's a lot clearer now. You need to get out of the car, talk to some
people, polish up those social skills

 

Add that to the list including mathematical skills.

50k miles / year for 30 years.

What a load of bollocks.

At average speeds of 30 years ago, working on a 12 hour day, that would
be a third of the year spent behind the wheel.

 

<gloom>

--
platypus

"Merely corroborative detail, intended to
give artistic verisimilitude to an otherwise
bald and unconvincing narrative."

 

SteveH secured a place in history by writing:

I rest my case. Explains everything about the tedious wanker.

 

That's not...no, it was the M23 junction, wasn't it, where sweller had his
mishap?

--
platypus

"Merely corroborative detail, intended to
give artistic verisimilitude to an otherwise
bald and unconvincing narrative.”

 

You mean you leave enough space before the corner and boot it to catch
thm on th exit? Nothing to do with 'superior handling' which your car
doesn't have anyway.

But clearly you'vew never ridden a powerful motorbike either,
otherwise you, like Ray, wouldn't even be thinking about getting a
'run up' out of corners or anywhere else.

As you'll still miss the point, let me spell it out: a powerful
motorbike like the gixxer thou in the OP's vid can accelerate from a
point ten feet behind a car, perform the overtake, then brake back to
the original speed in less time than you'd take to change down a gear
on your Nissen hut.

--
_______
..'_/_|_\_'. Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom)
\`\ | /`/ GSX-R1000K3 (slightly broken, currently missing)
`\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2, IBB#10
`\|/`
`

 

Yes, you have

 

*cough*

 

Be fair, the upright walking's quite common. It's the opposing digits
on hands that's the achievement. Soon the knuckle dragging's going to
stop you know.

 

To be fair it was clear that the car was *likely* to overtake. I doubt
the car driver was using their mirrors and it did move quickly without
seeming to indicate in advance (at all I think; it looked like there was
an indicator on the front wing that I didn't see flash) its road
positioning clearly said the driver was thinking about overtaking.

Anyway, shit happens, it's all part of riding a bike. With time and age
(and luck...) you get to anticipate better.

 

Thus putting themselves into the danger zone alongside the car in a very
short time, which surely puts the onus on the rider to either be certain
they have been seen (eye contact in the mirror, etc.) *or* pass in such a
way that they have room and/or time to react if the unexpected happens.

Either you're fast enough to not care what the other person does, you can
'accelerate out of trouble', or you're not.

The bike in the video wasn't. His fault. The car was following a queue,
waited for the first opportunity to pass, and did. The bike should have
waited - it's not as though he couldn't have taken both of the cars easily
as soon as the first one had pulled back in now, is it?

 

I can't think of anyone I know who rides a bike and waits for 'eye
contact' with a driver before overtaking, most just get in position
and go for the gap.

Do you know the road? If not then you can't possibly know he could
have waited for the car to finish his overtake and then pull out and
get past the two cars.

Are you really a police officer? I'm finding it hard to believe that
you are and I think you're more likely to work for Group 4 as a
security guard on an industrial estate somewhere.