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  1. JoeSchmoe

    Henry Guest

    What did I write that you "think" is nutty, and why do you "think"
    it's nutty, exactly?
    Ray got very quiet when I asked him to point out the glaring
    differences he imagines between the two demolitions shown in
    the video. Can you help him out, or are you as deluded, confused,
    helpless, and nutty as Ray? Sure can be fun to challenge you
    nut jobs to read and think.... <chuckle>

    http://tinyurl.com/c8c3q4



    --



    "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." --
    Albert Einstein.

    http://911research.wtc7.net
    http://www.journalof911studies.com/
    http://www.ae911truth.org
     
    Henry, Oct 1, 2010
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  2. JoeSchmoe

    Henry Guest

    So, Bush successfully used 9-11 as an excuse to attack Iraq, but you
    "think" 9-11 almost prevented him from attacking Iraq. Good "thinking"
    Veto. By the way do you know what WTC7 was yet? Do you agree with Ray
    So far, you and the older clown are the only kooks I've seen who
    have suggested that Bush blew up the WTC. That's pretty stupid - even
    for you and the clown.. ;-)


    Let us know if you disagree with anything written below, and
    if so, what and why.
    Here is a excerpt from a letter written by Richard Gage, founder
    of Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth to NIST.

    http://www.ae911truth.org/info/75

    TO: Dr. Shyam Sunder, National Institute of Standards and Technology

    Dear Dr. Sunder,

    Here are our talking points:

    1. The NIST November 2008 Final WTC 7 Investigative Report has many
    fatal flaws:

    a. NIST was forced to acknowledge the free-fall collapse of Building 7
    for 100 feet of its 6.5 second fall only after being grilled publicly by
    experts who are petition signers of AE911Truth. Yet you do not
    acknowledge the obvious implications of such free-fall collapse ? that
    the structure had to have been removed forcibly by explosives.
    (Anyone knows that a building cannot collapse at the rate of a freely
    falling object while simultaneously crushing 40,000 tons of structural
    steel because all of its gravitational potential energy has been
    converted to motion.)

    Free fall, by definition, can only be achieved if a falling structure
    or object encounters no significant resistance. Obviously, a steel
    frame that's engineered to support several times its own weight can
    not crush itself at the the rate of free fall. The belief that it can,
    is one of the most comically absurd claims in your impossible magic
    fire/Super Arab cartoon conspiracy theory.

    The demolitions shown in the video below both display all
    the characteristics of controlled demolition, and none of
    fire induced failure, yet followers of the government's 9-11
    conspiracy theory try to tell us that one was caused by the
    partial, gradual, and random weakening of a small percentage
    of support columns due to gradual heating, and the other was
    caused by the total, instant, and symmetric destruction of all
    the support columns due to demolition. They can't have it both
    ways. That's why no one can produce even *one* example of a steel
    framed high rise that dropped due to fire. Not one. Not ever. Not
    anywhere. It's physically impossible.

    http://tinyurl.com/c8c3q4

    Look at the buckled column in the photo linked below. That's the
    sort of gradual bending and sagging that would be caused by
    *extreme* heat. Of course, the fires in WTC7 never even got that
    hot.

    http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/fire/SCI-3-6.jpg

    Photo from:http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/fire/SCI.htm

    Tell us how you think WTC7 could suddenly drop at the rate of free
    fall while simultaneously bending, crushing and breaking up its steel
    frame - a steel frame that was engineered to support several times its
    own weight and withstand hurricane force wind loads and mild earth
    quakes. Do you understand that free fall can only occur when a falling
    object encounters no significant resistance? Tell us how you imagine all
    the steel columns lost all their strength in an instant. We know that
    gradual, random weakening from minor office fires can't cause that, and
    we also know that most of the steel frame wasn't even exposed to fire.






    Videos from:http://www.911speakout.org/



    --



    "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." --
    Albert Einstein.

    http://911research.wtc7.net
    http://www.journalof911studies.com/
    http://www.ae911truth.org
     
    Henry, Oct 1, 2010
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  3. JoeSchmoe

    Ray Fischer Guest

    So how it the whole "raving asshole" routine working for you?
     
    Ray Fischer, Oct 2, 2010
  4. JoeSchmoe

    Henry Guest

    Yes, he did, among others. Your ignorance seems to have
    no limits. As always, here's proof.

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_oet&address=358x1293


    http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2003/09/16/cheney_link_of_iraq_911_challenged/

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/19/bush-continues-to-link-ir_n_92321.html
    You don't know that at all. You're spewing kook drivel again.




    --



    "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." --
    Albert Einstein.

    http://911research.wtc7.net
    http://www.journalof911studies.com/
    http://www.ae911truth.org
     
    Henry, Oct 5, 2010
  5. JoeSchmoe

    Henry Guest

    Ray Fischer spewed:
    <censored link restored because we can't afford to let freedom,
    truth, justice, and America hating nut jobs hide the truth - plus,
    it's fun to watch them squirm, back pedal, cower, and weasel when
    they're presented with the hard evidence and challenged to address
    it> Thanks Ray. ;-)

    http://tinyurl.com/c8c3q4

    Tell us what you "think" are the most glaring differences
    between the two demolitions shown in the link that you're
    so desperate to avoid. You said they don't display all the
    characteristics of controlled demolition. Which one do you
    "think" doesn't look like a controlled demolition, and why?

    http://tinyurl.com/c8c3q4
    You mentioned "airplane collisions" above. How many do you "think"
    collided with WTC7? If none, why do you babble about airplanes during
    a discussion WTC7's demolition? Are you insane? Rhetorical, btw, look
    it up... ;-)



    --



    "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." --
    Albert Einstein.

    http://911research.wtc7.net
    http://www.journalof911studies.com/
    http://www.ae911truth.org
     
    Henry, Oct 5, 2010
  6. JoeSchmoe

    Henry Guest

    What did I write that you "think" is nutty, and why do you "think"
    it's nutty, exactly?
    Ray got very quiet when I asked him to point out the glaring
    differences he imagines between the two demolitions shown in
    the video. Can you help him out, or are you as deluded, confused,
    helpless, and nutty as Ray? Sure can be fun to challenge you
    nut jobs to read and think.... <chuckle>

    http://tinyurl.com/c8c3q4



    --



    "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." --
    Albert Einstein.

    http://911research.wtc7.net
    http://www.journalof911studies.com/
    http://www.ae911truth.org
     
    Henry, Oct 5, 2010
  7. JoeSchmoe

    Henry Guest

    What?
    Tell us which one of the demolitions shown in the video
    linked below does not display the characteristics of a controlled
    demolition, and why. Then tell us why you think planes had anything
    to do with WTC7's free fall and symmetric drop.



    http://tinyurl.com/c8c3q4


    --



    "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." --
    Albert Einstein.

    http://911research.wtc7.net
    http://www.journalof911studies.com/
    http://www.ae911truth.org
     
    Henry, Oct 5, 2010
  8. JoeSchmoe

    Ray Fischer Guest

    Kook
     
    Ray Fischer, Oct 5, 2010
  9. JoeSchmoe

    Henry Guest

    Henry, Oct 5, 2010
  10. JoeSchmoe

    Henry Guest

    Claiming that the Bush regime didn't use the 9-11 attacks to get the
    frightened and ignroant sheeple behind his plan to invade Iraq reveals
    extreme ignroance. If you know anyone you trust who can read, ask them
    to help you read and understand the information in the links above.

    Yes, they date back to when the Bush regime used 9-11 to "justify"
    invading Iraq...




    --



    "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." --
    Albert Einstein.

    http://911research.wtc7.net
    http://www.journalof911studies.com/
    http://www.ae911truth.org
     
    Henry, Oct 5, 2010
  11. JoeSchmoe

    Ray Fischer Guest

    Raving assholes write "what?"
    Kook.
     
    Ray Fischer, Oct 6, 2010
  12. JoeSchmoe

    Henry Guest

    It was incredibly kooky for you to claim that the
    demolitions shown in the video don't display the
    characteristics of controlled demolitions, or that
    planes had something to do with WTC7's free fall and
    symmetric drop. That's why you come undone and become
    even more stupid when you're asked to clarify and defend
    your kooky "thoughts". Thanks for proving my point, but
    you'd be much better off if you just admitted that your
    emotions trumped your "thought" process again, and
    that you were dead wrong on both points - as usual.... <chuckle>


    --



    "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." --
    Albert Einstein.

    http://911research.wtc7.net
    http://www.journalof911studies.com/
    http://www.ae911truth.org
     
    Henry, Oct 6, 2010
  13. JoeSchmoe

    Henry Guest

    Hey Ray, how long did it take you to learn to slither on your
    back so quickly? I've seen many kooks go tits up when they're
    challenged to defend their nutty kook rants and 9-11 fairy
    tale, but slithering off so quickly while you're on your back
    must have taken some practice... <chuckle>



    Ray Fischer spewed:
    <censored link restored because we can't afford to let freedom,
    truth, justice, and America hating nut jobs hide the truth - plus,
    it's fun to watch them squirm, back pedal, cower, and weasel when
    they're presented with the hard evidence and challenged to address
    it> Thanks Ray. ;-)

    http://tinyurl.com/c8c3q4

    Tell us what you "think" are the most glaring differences
    between the two demolitions shown in the link that you're
    so desperate to avoid. You said they don't display all the
    characteristics of controlled demolition. Which one do you
    "think" doesn't look like a controlled demolition, and why?

    http://tinyurl.com/c8c3q4
    You mentioned "airplane collisions" above. How many do you "think"
    collided with WTC7? If none, why do you babble about airplanes during
    a discussion WTC7's demolition? Are you insane? Rhetorical, btw, look
    it up... ;-)



    --



    "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." --
    Albert Einstein.

    http://911research.wtc7.net
    http://www.journalof911studies.com/
    http://www.ae911truth.org
     
    Henry, Oct 6, 2010
  14. JoeSchmoe

    Henry Guest

    Twitbull timidly chirped:
    And of course, if someone had ridden a bike through WTC7's
    massive steel frame, according to Tim, twitbull, and the clown,
    it would have felt no different than riding through air. <g>
    This is where Tim, twitbull, and the clown get even sillier,
    or very, very quiet - they've been challenged to read, think,
    and defend their blind faith and ignorance based 9-11 fairy
    tale. ;-)

    Let us know if you disagree with anything written below, and
    if so, what and why.
    Here is a excerpt from a letter written by Richard Gage, founder
    of Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth to NIST.

    http://www.ae911truth.org/info/75

    TO: Dr. Shyam Sunder, National Institute of Standards and Technology

    Dear Dr. Sunder,

    Here are our talking points:

    1. The NIST November 2008 Final WTC 7 Investigative Report has many
    fatal flaws:

    a. NIST was forced to acknowledge the free-fall collapse of Building 7
    for 100 feet of its 6.5 second fall only after being grilled publicly by
    experts who are petition signers of AE911Truth. Yet you do not
    acknowledge the obvious implications of such free-fall collapse ? that
    the structure had to have been removed forcibly by explosives.
    (Anyone knows that a building cannot collapse at the rate of a freely
    falling object while simultaneously crushing 40,000 tons of structural
    steel because all of its gravitational potential energy has been
    converted to motion.)

    Free fall, by definition, can only be achieved if a falling structure
    or object encounters no significant resistance. Obviously, a steel
    frame that's engineered to support several times its own weight can
    not crush itself at the the rate of free fall. The belief that it can,
    is one of the most comically absurd claims in your impossible magic
    fire/Super Arab cartoon conspiracy theory.

    The demolitions shown in the video below both display all
    the characteristics of controlled demolition, and none of
    fire induced failure, yet followers of the government's 9-11
    conspiracy theory try to tell us that one was caused by the
    partial, gradual, and random weakening of a small percentage
    of support columns due to gradual heating, and the other was
    caused by the total, instant, and symmetric destruction of all
    the support columns due to demolition. They can't have it both
    ways. That's why no one can produce even *one* example of a steel
    framed high rise that dropped due to fire. Not one. Not ever. Not
    anywhere. It's physically impossible.

    http://tinyurl.com/c8c3q4

    Look at the buckled column in the photo linked below. That's the
    sort of gradual bending and sagging that would be caused by
    *extreme* heat. Of course, the fires in WTC7 never even got that
    hot.

    http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/fire/SCI-3-6.jpg

    Photo from:http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/fire/SCI.htm

    Tell us how you think WTC7 could suddenly drop at the rate of free
    fall while simultaneously bending, crushing and breaking up its steel
    frame - a steel frame that was engineered to support several times its
    own weight and withstand hurricane force wind loads and mild earth
    quakes. Do you understand that free fall can only occur when a falling
    object encounters no significant resistance? Tell us how you imagine all
    the steel columns lost all their strength in an instant. We know that
    gradual, random weakening from minor office fires can't cause that, and
    we also know that most of the steel frame wasn't even exposed to fire.






    Videos from:http://www.911speakout.org/



    --



    "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." --
    Albert Einstein.

    http://911research.wtc7.net
    http://www.journalof911studies.com/
    http://www.ae911truth.org
     
    Henry, Oct 6, 2010
  15. JoeSchmoe

    Henry Guest

    So, Bush successfully used 9-11 as an excuse to attack Iraq, but you
    "think" 9-11 almost prevented him from attacking Iraq. Good "thinking"
    Veto. By the way do you know what WTC7 was yet? Do you agree with Ray
    So far, you and the older clown are the only kooks I've seen who
    have suggested that Bush blew up the WTC. That's pretty stupid - even
    for you and the clown.. ;-)


    Let us know if you disagree with anything written below, and
    if so, what and why.
    Here is a excerpt from a letter written by Richard Gage, founder
    of Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth to NIST.

    http://www.ae911truth.org/info/75

    TO: Dr. Shyam Sunder, National Institute of Standards and Technology

    Dear Dr. Sunder,

    Here are our talking points:

    1. The NIST November 2008 Final WTC 7 Investigative Report has many
    fatal flaws:

    a. NIST was forced to acknowledge the free-fall collapse of Building 7
    for 100 feet of its 6.5 second fall only after being grilled publicly by
    experts who are petition signers of AE911Truth. Yet you do not
    acknowledge the obvious implications of such free-fall collapse ? that
    the structure had to have been removed forcibly by explosives.
    (Anyone knows that a building cannot collapse at the rate of a freely
    falling object while simultaneously crushing 40,000 tons of structural
    steel because all of its gravitational potential energy has been
    converted to motion.)

    Free fall, by definition, can only be achieved if a falling structure
    or object encounters no significant resistance. Obviously, a steel
    frame that's engineered to support several times its own weight can
    not crush itself at the the rate of free fall. The belief that it can,
    is one of the most comically absurd claims in your impossible magic
    fire/Super Arab cartoon conspiracy theory.

    The demolitions shown in the video below both display all
    the characteristics of controlled demolition, and none of
    fire induced failure, yet followers of the government's 9-11
    conspiracy theory try to tell us that one was caused by the
    partial, gradual, and random weakening of a small percentage
    of support columns due to gradual heating, and the other was
    caused by the total, instant, and symmetric destruction of all
    the support columns due to demolition. They can't have it both
    ways. That's why no one can produce even *one* example of a steel
    framed high rise that dropped due to fire. Not one. Not ever. Not
    anywhere. It's physically impossible.

    http://tinyurl.com/c8c3q4

    Look at the buckled column in the photo linked below. That's the
    sort of gradual bending and sagging that would be caused by
    *extreme* heat. Of course, the fires in WTC7 never even got that
    hot.

    http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/fire/SCI-3-6.jpg

    Photo from:http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/fire/SCI.htm

    Tell us how you think WTC7 could suddenly drop at the rate of free
    fall while simultaneously bending, crushing and breaking up its steel
    frame - a steel frame that was engineered to support several times its
    own weight and withstand hurricane force wind loads and mild earth
    quakes. Do you understand that free fall can only occur when a falling
    object encounters no significant resistance? Tell us how you imagine all
    the steel columns lost all their strength in an instant. We know that
    gradual, random weakening from minor office fires can't cause that, and
    we also know that most of the steel frame wasn't even exposed to fire.






    Videos from:http://www.911speakout.org/



    --



    "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." --
    Albert Einstein.

    http://911research.wtc7.net
    http://www.journalof911studies.com/
    http://www.ae911truth.org
     
    Henry, Oct 6, 2010
  16. JoeSchmoe

    Ray Fischer Guest

    Again you lie about what I write, prving that your'e just some crazy
    asshole.
     
    Ray Fischer, Oct 7, 2010
  17. JoeSchmoe

    Ray Fischer Guest

    Why do you need to lie about people, asshole? Is it because you have
    no facts?
     
    Ray Fischer, Oct 7, 2010
  18. JoeSchmoe

    Henry Guest


    You definitely denied that the demolitions shown in the video both
    display the characteristics of controlled demolition. Why are you
    lying about, and hiding from what you wrote? When I ask you to
    elaborate on these imagined differences, you become even more
    stupid, spew more lies, or babble about planes, which have nothing
    to do with WTC7's demolition.
    When will you be able to stop lying hiding from your own idiocy, and
    tell us which one you "think" doesn't look like a demolition, and why?
    You kooks sure do get stupid when you're challenged to address the
    evidence and defend your insane beliefs. <chuckle>

    Here's the link again.

    http://tinyurl.com/c8c3q4




    --



    "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." --
    Albert Einstein.

    http://911research.wtc7.net
    http://www.journalof911studies.com/
    http://www.ae911truth.org
     
    Henry, Oct 7, 2010
  19. JoeSchmoe

    E. Meyer Guest

    Just what the hell does this have to do with rec.autos.tech????? Quit cross
    posting this crap!!!!
     
    E. Meyer, Oct 8, 2010
  20. JoeSchmoe

    Ray Fischer Guest

    Repeating a lie just makes you look more crazy.
     
    Ray Fischer, Oct 8, 2010
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