Wheelies are fun

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You need Firefox, you do with the videodownloader extension.

See above.

 

Not really. I've a couple of goals I'm working toward;

i) Walking pace wheelies. Popping it up *hard* at slow speeds and
dragging the rear brake. Gives me plenty of 1st gear to play with and
IMO looks way cooler than pure acceleration wheelies. I've a way to go
yet, although I often dream that I can do them for miles, and steer
through town traffic. Heh.

ii) Gears. Yes, I'm still struggling with changing up. Just can't get
the revs right. Usually they're too low, and I don't have the power in
2nd to keep it up, or occasionally, like last week, they're too high
and I have to shit my pants in fear of impending flippage.

Obviously, the angle of dangle at the range where I change, needs
careful selection to maintain the erection at a speed that I need to
achieve, I believe.

Have you progressed at all since we last spoke?

 

The higher you go, the more relaxed you have to be. What's relaxed
enough for a 45 degree wheelie at 35mph may not be relaxed enough for a
20mph one, especially as you get higher, and is almost definitely not
relaxed enough for 10mph.

Most people think they're smooth on the throttle - most of them are
wrong.

The throttle should be just like it is on a long, constant radius corner
when you're really going for it. You may make tiny adjustments, but they
are absolutely tiny. Anything more than that and you're not smooth
enough.

You also have to be absolutely honest with yourself, too. Bizarrely it's
not a place to be arrogant or egotistical. If you're not smooth, admit
it and work on it. And even if you are smooth, still work on being
smoother.

The one thing people seem to forget it that it's just a wheelie. It
won't get you laid, get you a blow job, make you rich. If you're lucky
you might get a pint out of someone, but that's it. Therefore, it's not
worth killing yourself for, and it's certainly not worth ignoring
technique problems 'cos you're too arrogant to admit you're not perfect.

This isn't aimed directly at you, but as there'll be loads of people
reading this, it's worth saying.

You'd also be amazed how many people are too arrogant, or stupid, to
admit they're not smooth...

Don't wheelie in crosswinds. It's that simple.

As you know, it can push you of course a little, but that's only at
lower heights. When you start getting more vertical what it does is
twist the bike under you so that you end up looking at the side of the
fairing. This is not good because to land it you have to wrench the bike
back upright, which has a habit of making the landing remarkably
unpleasant, half the time leading to a good tank slapper, too.

Also, when you get really high, it can turn you so fast you won't even
know it's gone wrong until you hit the curb, go through the front of the
shop window, hit the oncoming cars.

So, don't play in crosswinds - ever. In fact, if the wind's a little
gusty then even wheelieing into a headwind or away from a tailwind can
be just as dangerous.

Yep, you lean, weight a leg, or steer with the bars, but you have to be
pretty high for it to work. And the tighter you want to turn, the higher
you have to be. For a motorway curve you need to be at balance point. To
turn tighter, you need to be going slower and be past balance point.

And balance point is fucking high. Ignore all the crap you've heard
people say about it, 'cos 99% of the time they're talking bollocks.
Shutting the throttle and the bike staying up does not mean you're at
the balance point - it means you're a cack-handed **** who's fucked up
and launched the front up so violently that the engine braking isn't
enough to bring it back down again straight away.

You'll know when you hit the balance point, because you got there slowly
and it still feels like you're about to go right off the back. It takes
a while getting used to the sensation, trust me. If you're sat down,
then you have to look up *a lot* to see the clocks. If you look straight
forward, you'll be looking right at the fuel cap. The only way to see
where you're going on a balanced sat-down wheelie is to either look
around the fairing or to look down the forks (which will be near as damn
it parallel to the floor). You'll never see me do a balanced sat-down on
the road because it's simply too dangerous.

Sat-down balanced wheelies are also a lot harder than stood-up ones,
too, for a couple of reasons - you have to go higher than a stood-up,
therefore you have to be even smoother on the throttle, and you also
have to get used to doing a wheelie without being able to see where
you're going. Think how scary it would be to just ride along at say
30mph on both wheels with your eyes closed - that's basically how it is
at balance point.

Oh, and to do balance point wheelies with any kind of safety needs good
control of the rear brake. Learn that before you even think of pushing
for the balance point.

Oh, another oh, while it may feel easier and smoother to wheelie in
second, all you're really doing is hiding your lack of throttle
control/smoothness and increasing massively the speed that you're going
to crash at - and you are going to crash. Use first and get that
throttle control spot on. Better still, use first and work on doing slow
wheelies.

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Great. Really helpful.

OK, anyone tell me why I don't get sound and what I can do to get it,
on a locked PC? i.e. I can't install any other software.

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Short of "borrowing" the admin password you're fucked.

 

Ah, try slowing the speed of the lift down a little until you're happy
and smooth. What'll happen is, as you practise and get better, the lift
will naturally get faster without you even trying.

If you're launching at about 10mph, then it doesn't matter if you're
going 30mph before you're high because you're practising, not doing a
pro show.

When launching that slow, you really do need to be relaxed otherwise the
bike has a habit of falling off to the side. And if you're launching
really violently then it may very well exacerbate this because you'll be
chopping the throttle, too. Plus, launching violently may mean you're
also pulling on the 'bars without even realising you're doing it. This,
too, makes the bike fall to the side.

For slow launches you want to use the clutch to get it up, not just the
throttle, because it's so much easier to vary the speed of the lift with
the clutch. It gives you so much more control than any of the other
launch techniques.

If you're really this serious about learning, then it may be a good idea
to re-gear the bike. Partly because it makes going slower easier, but
also because it means you don't have to be as violent to the engine.
I've seen a clutch basket explode because the rider was practising 5mph
launches on standard gearing.

One down, seven up is about perfect for most people.

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Still haven't got the brake light down, though - but only because I need
a reg/rec for the bike. Crappy bloody Hondas...

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Or downloading LophtCrack (or its equivalent nowadays). Of course that
may result in their immediate dismissal..

Phil

 

Ta very much. I appreciate your time.
I'll try to absorb it all and put it into practice.

 

CBR 600 - great for stunting on, but Honda's reg/recs are utter shite.

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But *why* don't they give me sound? I can see them all right, and
videos on, say video.google.com are fine. Whay is it different?

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Nope.

Wonder if he's still got it - I could rip the reg/rec off it. I might
even tell him I did it.

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I'd also count that as borrowing, as IIRC it can be run against the
local machine and wouldn't be tracable if done offline.

 

You mean I should practice where there's nobody watching? You're
missing the point, surely?

Ah, kk, noted.

I used roll-on to begin with, but now clutch it up every time.

Mmm, I've sort of considered the possibility of re-gearing. I can
clutch it up in first from about 50mph down, but as I've failed to get
it up at all in second gear, I would lose some potential for motorway
wheelies.

Saying that, I suppose the re-gearing would give me more potential for
2nd gear wheelies.

Hmmm. I may have to think that out again.

Cheers Dave.

 

Youtube use a different codec to the one Google does.

IIRC Youtube use Flash7, whereas google use GVI (AVI with a few
modifications) If you could install Flash7, or newer it'd fix things on
youtube, but you can't do that without admin rights.

 

Practising is for getting everything nailed. Having people watch is for
when you've got everything perfect.

An audience adds that little extra pressure, which in turns makes you
tense, and tenseness leads to mistakes.

<newbies please read>
Roll-on's the best way to learn - and the other techniques all rely on
getting this technique right first.

It is the way to go, and that gearing won't affect the road-going
abilities of the bike too much.

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Lets just suppose one was to take a ZX10 and drop the gearing by,
say......15%
One would still have 160mph on tap, the rest might be "interesting"

 

no, AFAIK the CBR is at his dad's place.

 

In uk.rec.motorcycles, Veggie Dave belched forth and ejected the
following:

Dave,

Some time ago I remember watching a "Dukes of Puckeridge" and "Fairings
are for Homosexuals" (I think that was the names of them) on the IQ18
site. As I'm Moto'd up, what is the best thing I can do to gain more
power or have I bought a shite bike that won't give any more?

I can get the front up on the roll-on easy enough but the front comes
down just as quickly because the revs run out.

 

In uk.rec.motorcycles, Bear belched forth and ejected the following:

Ah, right, ta for the clarification.[/QUOTE]

You thinking of buying it?