Wheel bearings

I've got a feeling that the rear wheel bearings on the Bandit are on
their way out - when you turn the wheel by hand there's a kind of dry,
grating noise which shouldn't be there.

Can't feel any play in the wheel, but unless one of the three[0]
bearings had failed completely, I don't expect there would be.

Is there a way to tell for sure if the bearings are knackered?

How easy is it to replace bearings? IIRC, I think I've done a cush drive
bearing before, but that had definitely expired when I replaced it, so I
think it was easy to get out.

Are there any online bearing suppliers[1] that will sell to the general
public?


[0] Two in wheel, one in cush drive; right?
[1] Yes, I know I could get them from a Suzuki dealer, but I suspect a
"proper" bearing supplier could get me higher-spec equivalents for a
better price.

 

Jack the wheel off the ground and check for play by trying to waggle the
wheel. Either that take the wheel off and see if the inner race of
the bearing moves in relation to the rest of the race, it shouldn't.

Hammer, drift, bitsawood to hold the disks off the ground and batter
them out. Use a draw bolt to pull the new ones into the wheel or hammer
them in using the old races as drifts.

Suzuki dealer will sell you a set for about 20 ukp either that go to
Bearing Services Ltd, or similar. IIRC 6202RS should be the ones.

HTH

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See above: "Can't feel any play in the wheel".

Aye, I know that. Suppose I'll have to take the wheel off, then.

What, no angle grinder? Oh, go on. Tell me I can use my compressor as well.

Yeah, thought as much.

Did you read my footnote?

I'll give them a go. I've found somewhere that will sell me a set for
~GBP15.

Did you really know that from memory?

 

I'd take the rear wheel out and rotate the bearings by hand. The
movement should be completely smooth - if you can feel any roughness,
or they spin *very* freely with a bit of a rattly noise, they're on
their way.

You need something that approximates to the outide diameter of the
bearing, and a big hammer. For the former, a large socket usually
does the job.

 

He has the number memorised because he keeps breaking them
with his incorrect method of fitting.
You don't touch the inner part of the bearing while fitting it.

 

Sounds like a plan.

You could angle grind the bearing housing off and then weld a new one on
but that's a bit extreme as for the compressor I dunno.

Yes, a decent dealer will sell you the correct double shielded bearings
as opposed to the single side shielded OE shite. If they try anything
else run away.

that's about right.

Yes.

I am regulary surprised what shite has accumulated betwixt my ears over
the years. In fact I know for a fact that Husqvarna 60cc chainsaws use
6202 bearings as crankshaft main bearings.

The RS means rubber shielded BTW.

Actually I think a lot of bikes use them as wheel bearings, so in fact
any dealer should be able to supply them.


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OK, so we're definitely going to have to pull the wheel out to check.

I've got just the thing: a set of large sockets that I've borrowed off
AndrewR, so I don't have to knacker any of mine.

 

Just where did I mention using the inner race to fit the bearing?

If you don't understand what is being said keep your mouth shut and ****
off.

HTH

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"For a minute there, you bored me to death."
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Hah! Decent dealer! Round these parts? I don't think so.

I think I used to know that.

It's easier for me to order stuff online than get to the dealers, at the
moment.

 

That would be where you wrote:
'Use a draw bolt to pull the new ones into the wheel
or hammer them in using the old races as drifts.'
without any caveat against touching the inner race.

HTH

 

Do you have a big hammer?

 

So your point is that I didn't explicitly tell the OP not to use the
inner race to fit the bearings when he had clearly stated that he has
fitted bearings before and should know better.

You sir, are a pedant.

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Wheel bearings are pretty common mind.

[snip]

Oh and before I forget make sure that you don't touch the inner race
when fitting them, I ommitted to tell you that in my last post as I
reckoned that you weren't a complete numpty.

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"For a minute there, you bored me to death."
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I'd be impressed if you could drift a new bearing with an old bearing
and managed to touch the inner race. I suppose you could use it end
on if you were particularly thick.

No, on balance, I think Martin was being jolly helpful, and you're
being a bit of an idiot.

 

Yes. I have a selection of hammers, most of which would be suitable for
hitting AndrewR's sockets.

 

Decent dealers aren't

Well, it's a good job you mentioned that, or I may have been tempted to
twat them in using a socket that was the same size as the inner race!

 

Depends on the size of the nail its driving dunnit.

Anyhow you shouldn't be asking questions like that, its rude.

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"For a minute there, you bored me to death."
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*wince*

Where is the SGT, anyway?

 

I know this might sound slightly unbelievable, but I understand that
people have been giving him work to do! Outrageous!

Alternatively, he might be working on the "prize super Soduko" I gave
him yesterday, which seems a much more likely option.

 

The world will spin off its axis

Ah, yes.

I tried one of those in the Indy a few weeks ago. While I made some
progress with it, I got to the point where there seemed to be at least
several possibilities, and the only way to move further was trial and
error. Which I figured had to be wrong.