Wheel Alignment (newbie)

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by David Thomas, Nov 5, 2003.

  1. David Thomas

    David Thomas Guest

    Hi All

    I have a Bandit N600 and needed to adjust the chain tonight, the handbook
    says to use the alignment guides on each side of the swing arm to keep the
    sprockets aligned, but when I re-tighten the axle the guides move.

    Is there a better way of aligning the wheel other than using these guides or
    are they close enough ?

    I did have a sqint on UKRM and saw references to an alignment tool, but I
    wanna finish this adjustment and piss off out early in the morning!

    Any help much appeciated, David
     
    David Thomas, Nov 5, 2003
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  2. David Thomas

    Malc Guest

    Personally I'd not slacken the axle right off then there's less chance of
    much movement during final tightening.

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    Malc, Nov 5, 2003
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  3. Planks of wood and stretched string do the trick. Generally, using the
    marks and then a good long squint from the rear of the bike is close
    enough.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Nov 5, 2003
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  4. David Thomas

    Pip Guest

    That's valid - loosen as little as possible while still being able to
    move the wheel back.

    The thing is (particularly) with Bandits, that as you tighten the
    spindle nut, the alignment does change - well perhaps not the akchewel
    alignment, but certainly the chain tension. As one tightens the nut,
    having finally got the required tension, suddenly the chain goes
    bar-taut - just as one nips one's nut up.

    The only way to do it is to turn the adjusters a couple of flats only,
    then re-tighten the spindle nut. Check the chain tension again and if
    neccessary, loosen off and go another couple of flats. You _must_
    re-check tension all around the chain once the spindle nut is torqued
    up. If it is still out of adjustment, go back and do it again.

    With practice comes the ability to accurately predict the amount of
    tension the spindle nut will apply, and to allow for that.

    Alternatively, fit a Scottoiler and chain adjustment just doesn't
    happen ...
     
    Pip, Nov 5, 2003
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  5. David Thomas

    David Thomas Guest

    Yeah it looks as if I have been slackening the axle a little too much, also
    it appears on closer inspection that the guides on the axle are a couple of
    mm bigger than the axle this makes the guides inaccurate when you tighten up
    on them.

    By the way you're not the same Pip that used to post on the laptop newsgroup
    are you ?

    Cheers, David
     
    David Thomas, Nov 5, 2003
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  6. Pip wrote
    Get a shaftie in the first place then you won't even need one of these:-
     
    steve auvache, Nov 5, 2003
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  7. David Thomas

    David Thomas Guest

    Yeah I thought about that but with my budget I ended up with a choice of a
    Divvy 900 (no chain worries) or a Bandit 600 (looks lovely)... went for the
    Bandit !

    David
     
    David Thomas, Nov 5, 2003
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  8. David Thomas

    Pip Guest

    They're only a rough guide. Do what TOG suggests - there's a link
    from the FAQ that will give you Alignment For Numpties.
    I'm afraid not. Us Pips like to maintain a general presence across
    usenet, however.
     
    Pip, Nov 5, 2003
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  9. David Thomas

    Lozzo Guest

    Pip wibbled like a little girl....
    Gladys Knight never did manage to keep you lot in check

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    Lozzo, Nov 5, 2003
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  10. David Thomas wrote
    Probably a wise choice all in all I reckon.
     
    steve auvache, Nov 5, 2003
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  11. And once you're happy that it's aligned, simply counting flats as you
    turn the following times you adjust it means it will stay so.

    Although having finally invested in a SnotOiler, I shall myself be doing
    this less often.

    Cheers,
     
    Cannibal Surf Boy, Nov 6, 2003
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  12. David Thomas

    Alan.T.Gower Guest

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    This is what Dave from Lloyd Cooper recommends.

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    Alan.T.Gower, Nov 7, 2003
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