What's that other cable for?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Whinging Courier, Dec 9, 2004.

  1. And has anyone got a spare twist grip that'll fit a CBR1000FL?

    I've just, after much grief towards the end, put the straight bars and
    risers on, all the switches (which don't stay still now because there
    are notches in them that slotted into the old clip-ons) and the
    throttle. The throttle was a bastard, it too had a notch but I worked
    out that if I took the cables out (there's two) I could get the twist
    grip on the bar. I got one cable out and whilst removing the other, the
    plastic bit that holds the nipple in place decided to give up and go on
    holiday - It looks like a one way ticket and I have no idea where it's
    gone. It seems to run ok with the one cable but what is the other one
    for? /It/ seemed to go in while the other one came out.

    I hope it's nothing important as now it's test ride time.

    Mahahahahaahahaha!
     
    Whinging Courier, Dec 9, 2004
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    Muck Guest

    The other cable is so that you can force the throttle closed, should you
    need to, rather than relying on an ickle spring to do it for you. Having
    two cables on a large bike is a very good thing imho.
     
    Muck, Dec 9, 2004
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    mups Guest

    Whinging Courier says...
    Um no sorry.
    One opens the throttle, the other closes it. They should close without
    the cable...
    <Idly wonders how fast a naked CBR1000 with a stuck open throttle
    goes...>

    Prace bets now!
     
    mups, Dec 9, 2004
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    Big Tony Guest

    Would this be before or after it has flipped the rider off the back and
    headed for the nearest solid object, as they always seem to do?
     
    Big Tony, Dec 9, 2004
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  5. It does but now there's at least 10mm of play in it, probably a bit
    more.
    AOL. I never got a chance to go at it full throttle but if anything it
    seems to be a bit quicker; I've put this down to the fact it's more
    upright now and I can feel the pull a bit harder[1]
    There's still time. I'd like to get that other cable sorted. It's
    crunching around inside the switch atm and it's only a matter of time
    before it jams it other cable wide open ;o)

    [1] If you thought it was windy before. You should try it now, it's like
    I'm being sucked off by the chest[2]

    [2]Oooer, missus.
     
    Whinging Courier, Dec 9, 2004
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  6. It needs fixing. I never went WFO when out but testing it stationary
    with ignition off, the whole assembly moves at full throttle.

    Needs a jubilee clip round the bars and the metal bits that hold the
    cable that goes into the switch, that'll stop the bugger from turning.

    Oh, talking of turning, it does do that much better. It's a crying shame
    the roads are so greasy, it really does want to lean.
     
    Whinging Courier, Dec 9, 2004
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  7. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    drugs began to take hold. I remember Whinging Courier
    You can get by quite happily with just the opening cable [1], but make
    bloody sure the cable, nipples, levers, cams, doobries and dangly bits
    are well-lubed at all times. Stuck throttles are good for adrenaline
    rushes and buggerall else.

    [1] I have, for the past 20 years.

    --

    Dave

    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
    SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Dec 9, 2004
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    Dan L Guest

    Been there and done that (had to buy a replacement twist grip).

    One cable opens the throttle, the other closes it. Apparently it's there in
    case the the throttle return spring breaks (or sommat).

    --
    Dan L (Oldbloke)
    My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
    M'boy's bike 2003 Honda NSR125R
    Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X
    BOTAFOT #140, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow)
     
    Dan L, Dec 9, 2004
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    Muck Guest

    I'm sure there's an elegant solution to this.
    Heh, lean, slide, oops... lean, slide, oops...
     
    Muck, Dec 9, 2004
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  10. Short of drilling a hole in the bars for the lug or using superglue,
    then no, I can't think of one.
    Actually, it felt a lot more confident going round corners. I didn't
    give it any beanage but I also got the feeling it wasn't going to slide
    of under me at any moment.
     
    Whinging Courier, Dec 9, 2004
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  11. This is looking likely. Are they pretty much all the same? Last time I
    changed a throttle cable was on my DT125 17 years ago and I can't
    remember what it looked like.
    The spring must've been bust in mine since the beginning, it's never
    closed on its own and always had to be shut by hand. There's a *lot* of
    play in the cable as well.
     
    Whinging Courier, Dec 9, 2004
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    Muck Guest

    I used duck tape on my Bandit when I changed the bars. It's held up for
    a few years so far.
    Strange. I can't remember what my Bandit felt like with the old higher /
    wider bars on there, so I can't comment. The FZR is feeling a bit lively
    at the moment, I think I pumped up the tires a bit too high.
     
    Muck, Dec 9, 2004
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    Dan L Guest

    I got mine "used" from Barton Motors (cost me £9). I tried glueing and
    "welding" the broken one, but it just kept breaking.
    Try some of the online spares people for a new one, better safe than sorry.
    Might be worth changing the cables as well (if you need a hand soldering on
    new nipples let me know, I had to do this when I changed mine).

    --
    Dan L (Oldbloke)
    My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
    M'boy's bike 2003 Honda NSR125R
    Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X
    BOTAFOT #140, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow)
     
    Dan L, Dec 10, 2004
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  14. Thanks for the inspiration, there. I've just phoned Chiswick 'onda and
    they've ordered me a new one. Will be in tomorrow.
    For the sake of about a tenner I thought a new one would be a good
    investment, I didn't fancy buying a just as brittle as the old one :)

    The cables look good from what I can see but they do need a very good
    lube.

    Why would you need to solder new nipples, don't they come already
    attached?
     
    Whinging Courier, Dec 10, 2004
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    zymurgy Guest

    eek. I doubt you'll get a lot of purchase on the bars with a jubilee
    clip !!

    Can't that Nigel fella molish something more elegant out of some square
    section ally ?

    See above.
    Took the 12R out for a blatt the other weekend up to Northampton

    Bejeezus it was cold.

    The bike felt like it was on a knife edge, cold roads, cold tyres,
    lean, oops ... lean, oops.

    Managed to avoid the LBOTY number tho :)
    And the 12R doesn't carb ice. But my fingers do ! :-0

    P.
     
    zymurgy, Dec 10, 2004
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    Dan L Guest

    Only if you buy the inner / outer as a complete item. I only replaced the
    inner bit.

    --
    Dan L (Oldbloke)
    My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
    M'boy's bike 2003 Honda NSR125R
    Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X
    BOTAFOT #140, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow)
     
    Dan L, Dec 10, 2004
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  17. Gertrude and I did a couple of 100 mile + journeys in the dark
    evenings this weekend. I'll admit it wasn't warm, but the FT Pioneer
    suit plus thermal clothing & HG Lobster gloves meant I stayed warm
    enough.

    As for handling, well the roads are a bit slippery but the only bad
    bits were MK's famed roundabouts with their usual coating of diesel.
     
    Christopher Des Clayes, Dec 12, 2004
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