what's a "flooded carb"?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Doesnotcompute, Apr 19, 2004.

  1. It means the Carbs are flooded.
    The Carbs
    No that's a flooded filter box.
    Flooded carbs :)
     
    Doesnotcompute, Apr 19, 2004
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    mups Guest

    Really? Unless you've got carbs with injector pumps I can't see it making
    any difference.
    As all you are doing when you turn the throttle is moving a slide/butterfly
    valve I don't see how this floods the engine without it running.
     
    mups, Apr 19, 2004
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  3. Keelworm wrote
    They don't do that on modern carbs do they?

    I thought the accelerator pump jet was old hat on cars, let alone on
    bikes.
     
    steve auvache, Apr 19, 2004
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    WavyDavy Guest

    Only time this has happened to me has been when the carb float(s) is/are not
    working properly[1] so fuel keeps trying to fill up the float bowl at a
    higher rate than you are using it.

    Fuel then forces its way past the needle and stuff and chokes up the engine.

    Dave

    [1] Either the float(s) is/are holed or incorrectly set.
     
    WavyDavy, Apr 19, 2004
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    David Harris Guest

    I keep hearing this term: what does it mean? what is it that is flooded?

    The reason I ask is that my bike coughed and died the other day.
    Full tank of fuel I tried spinning the engine half a dozen times with and
    without choke. Then I noticed drips of petrol coming from near the air
    intake. When I opened the filter box it was swimming in petrol which I had
    to drain off.
    Is that what a flooded carb is? what else might suddenly cause this
    problem?
     
    David Harris, Apr 19, 2004
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  6. Keelworm wrote
    Poorly adjusted/seated floats.
     
    steve auvache, Apr 19, 2004
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    WavyDavy Guest

    But that's because SOCs have an extra jet in the carb which, when you pump
    the accellerator squirts extra fuel in to compensate for the lag you'd
    otherwise experience in such a low revving engine and give instant throttle
    response. Not seen a bike yet that has that kind of set up...

    Neither the CG nor the ER have flat slide carbs so, like mups says, all
    twisting the throttle should do is move the butterfly. Maybe yr little
    cousin's a sneaky bastard and used to carry 20ccs of 4 star round just to
    lob in the intake of yr bikes when you weren't looking to confuse you...
    :))

    Dave
     
    WavyDavy, Apr 19, 2004
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    mups Guest

    Umm yes, but you have a float and a needle valve to stop too much fuel
    getting into the carb.
    Can't comment on SOC as I can't remember the last time I had a non FI car.
     
    mups, Apr 19, 2004
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  9. Keelworm wrote
    After you have spent a weekend checking everything is ok with the carbs
    and finding out that in fact it was and you have wasted your precious
    time and money for no good reason: get in the habit of turning the fuel
    off when parking it for a long period and, of course, turning the ****
    back on again before you ride.


    Eh?
     
    steve auvache, Apr 19, 2004
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  10. Keelworm wrote
    This seems to be a well known phrase or saying.

    I don't actually understand it.

    I did a couple of weeks on a bindit 6 and found it quite a nice bike to
    ride. Perhaps it was the "A bit of a handful for slow commuting" where
    the top heavy makes it's mark.
     
    steve auvache, Apr 19, 2004
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    David Harris Guest

    As it happens the bike is an ER5 & it is a gravity fed carb.
     
    David Harris, Apr 19, 2004
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    Andy Hewitt Guest

    Well, as most of the other replies have not managed to explain properly.
    Most bikes have constant vacuum carburetters, these are the ones with
    the pistons in them. These do not have a throttle pump in them, so
    twisting the throttle does not put any fuel into the engine.

    There is also the constant venturi carburetters which do usually have a
    throttle pump in them, although these are very rare on bikes, so I can't
    say whether they have a pump or not on bikes - most older cars do.

    The most likely cause of fuel flooding into the engine is because the
    needle valve on the float is worn or stuck, and is allowing fuel to
    continuously flow into the carburetter.
     
    Andy Hewitt, Apr 19, 2004
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    Molly Guest

    Nice!
     
    Molly, Apr 19, 2004
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    sweller Guest

    Have him killed.
     
    sweller, Apr 20, 2004
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    sweller Guest

    Any with Dell Orto PHM carbs [1]. (Guzzi, Laverda, Ducati ...)


    [1] except mine as the pumpers have been blanked off. Don't know why.
     
    sweller, Apr 20, 2004
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