''What is the deal'' with the threads?-----ie.

What's remarkable about you is how you seem completely unaware of how
- with practically each post - you present yourself to everyone as the
prime example of exactly the things you love most to criticize in
others.

Whether it's on the topics of promoting commraderie and joint efforts
among bikers, being considerate as to how one should deal with the
reputations of others, making threats, pretending to be tough from
behind a keyboard, deriding others as dishonest and criminal, 'manning
up' when the occasion calls for it... the hypocrisy in your walk is
truly dumbfounding.

The kindest excuse that can be made for your ridiculous behaviour is
that you are simply too dull-witted to recognize such things - which
helps explain why neither you or your son have amounted to much and
why you depend on this environment so desperately.

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What I love most is to call the bluff of a Showboat like you.. Most bullies
react exactly as you have done.. Whine, cry and sling snot..

C'mon .. now Showboat.. You are the one that started all the evil grinnin',
reloadin' and talking about burning down someone's house and killing a man
in a fist fight.. Yeah.. I've sure derided you . NOT .. You did it to
yourself.. I don't have to pretend to be tough, anywhere.. That's up to the
bullies like you.. Give it a rest.. Showboat.. What you are doing right now
is, "swervin' and dodgin"..

.. the hypocrisy in your walk is

Hmmm.. I'm fairly new to "this environment".. You were here when I arrived..
Your biggest problem with me is, I'm not impressed with all that 6'3", 225
lbs. nonsense .

 

True to form again. The thing you hate worst in others is exactly
what you personify.

I trust people can read for themselves and that they know you are
always going on about how well you'd fare in a personal confrontation.
And I also know they can read that, while I have made a remark here
and there about it, I certainly don't dwell it like you do.

The typical posturer you are, you are always busy trying to convince
people how well you can handle yourself. The shriller you get on the
subject, the more you reveal your insecurity.

You are a classic example of the well-known "Little Man Syndrome".

Noted that you could not counter the hypocrisy charge.

Although I should also note that you have become very curiously silent
when it comes to speculating on whether I can cross the border into
the States due to (as you say) some sort of a criminal record you
think I have.

That sudden silence seems to have coincided with the time that your
criminal record was uncovered by others.

I guess that even *you* arrived at your hypocrisy limit on that one!
Heh, heh, heh.

Of course you aren't worried, Bill. Everyone can see that you hardly
give the subject a moment's thought!

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Another viewer----writes---
---------------------------
I know you were doing it to try and keep track of the thread, but the
effect on everyone else est no bueno, señor. please don't do it.
  i'm not knocking it, but simply pointing out another "feature" of
your WTV and how it affects the newgroups. your efforts on quoting have
been appreciated and this is a request along those same lines. grassy
ass.

---------bjay here--------
Jonathon, You calmly made a good point.
I shall consider it.
I find it hard to believe that some are not totally honest about this
issue, I will always believe it's really because I am not a PC'er, and
so many find that to be annoying. It seems ‘‘not to take much’’
for some in here, to take issue with me and my WTV Unit, thanks, bjay<>

 

hehehe... I never believed or thought you had a "criminal" record, you dumb
****.. When you came out with that remark about "killing a man in a fist
fight".. I asked "how much time did you serve for that one".. <chuckle>
When a wannabe commences to make those kinds of remarks, he's pumping
himself and trying to intimidate some one.. Later .. I did make a comment

Now .. that one was the best of them all.. ROTFL... What "sudden silence"
would you be talking about ?

That is sure right on.. LOL..

 

Oh, I'm quite sure you recall, Bill. But I'll help you anyway. How
about the sudden silence when your fellow regulars from tx.moto asked
you directly if it was true you had a criminal record?

Seems you've been hiding your past from the good folks here and they
felt a need to know who they were actually dealing with. Especially
when it's regarding someone (as yourself) who takes such great delight
in spreading rumours about others' on that very subject.

Kinda hit your hypocrisy limit on that one, didn't ya?

Q: How do you make a Walker shut up?

A: Ask him about his criminal record.

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You are right.. I don't recall any silence.. Seemed to be an immediate
response.. "None of your fucking business".. LOL .. If you call the
anonymous fool that posted it a "tx.moto regular" .. You may be right .. who
knows ? Be that as it may, the only "silence" that occurred could have only
been Monday and Tuesday.. right ? FYI .. that "silence" was due to my being
in our state Capitol .. where I appeared before one of the legislative
committee hearings on one of the Bills that we are trying to get on the
Floor of the House.. hmmm...That Bill is a Biker Friendly Bill.. Showboat..

ROTFL.. I've never hid from anyone, you silly twit.. If you are under the
impression that newsgroup nonsense is "dealing with someone".. then you have
surely never had a real life "dealing" experience, have you ? Anyone who
actually had an interest in discussing anything with me was invited to do
that in Austin, this week.. even you..

Especially

ROTFL.. I keep asking, you keep avoiding the question.. "What rumor or lie,
have I told about you, Showboat ?

Better get yourself another gig, Showboat.. you don't seem to getting much
mileage on this one...

 

Heh, heh, heh. Oh, I'm getting plenty good mileage, based on how you
are squirming over this, Bill.

It seems you've hit your hypocrisy limit on all that 'manning up'
advice you give out to others as well. What's the matter now, Bill?
You just LOVE to badger people and tell them to 'man up', but, now
that it's your turn, you don't have the balls to own up to what you've
done? Ha!

Hey, maybe tell us the story again of how everyone on tx.moto should
"do better" when it comes to not spreading sadness, bitterness and a
lack of values, affecting children, Bill. Coming from you, that was a
really good one too because, when I look around at all the
name-calling and bitterness I see in tx.moto and rec.moto, I only see
one common ingredient: You and Brian. Can you 'man up' to that one,
Bill?

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nah, i don't think so. if anything, i think if you spent some time with
a good newsreader on a small puter and saw how usenet is designed to
work, you would understand the oddities WTV does with newsgroups. i
also think you would find that a good newsreader offers so much more
than what you are dealing with currently that you might wonder why you
never tried it before. the thread tracking, which is the thing you were
trying to deal with by tagging the topic header, is much simpler and
automatically taken care of, as is quoting and attribution of posts, not
to mention the problem WTC seems to have with long posts doesn't happen
with a true newsreader.

i think i've described it before as tooling down the freeway on a moped
and wondering why everyone is honking at you, then you finally get in a
real car or motorcycle with some power and it's "ooohhhh, now i see what
all the commotion was about."

set up a newsreader on your wifes puter for a week just for grins. you
may not go back to WTV and she may have to kick you off her computer
once you see what you are missing. Free Agent and a bunch of other
newsreaders are readily available for free download and will greatly
improve your, and everyone elses, newsgroup experience.

 

Good advice, AV. You got waaaay more patience with that guy than I
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I thought I "manned up" pretty good when I declared "None of your fucking
business"... Suck it up Showboat..You don't cause me to squirm one damned
bit.. I can evil grin you into a coma..

Sure cause a sleazy son of a bitch like you some grief, don't I..?? Any
sorry bastard that freezes up on an isolated highway, hits the only
pedestrian within 50 miles and claims she's suicidal don't want to **** with
me..

Are you sure that you can't make that t-shirt thing this summer... ??

 

<snip>

Heh, heh, heh. Sure, Bill. You really think anyone believes that
you're "manning up" when you prove you're too chicken-shit to own up
to what you've done? That's a good one.

Seems like the police knew how to make you "man up" though - when they
caught your thieving ass red-handed, slapped the cuffs on you and
threw you into the back of a patrol car.

Hands cuffed and with your knees shaking in front of the judge, THEN
you had to "man up" to what you did, didn't you?

Oh, but you come across on the Net as such a tough guy! Man, you're
so scary, I would have thought you'd have been arrested for beating
someone up.

But no. You were sneakin' around like a fuckin' coward, trying to
steal what belonged to others and got caught - the type of person
nobody can trust.

Your whole fuckin' life presented here has been exposed as a lie.

You're on the hook now and never getting off until you "man up" - not
after your egregious treatment of others, that's for sure. You keep
on squirmin' and I'll keep on askin'. Count on it, old man.

Oh, tough guy again! Shit, you might get the whole senior citizen's
home out to beat me with crutches! Heh, heh, heh.

True to form again, Bill. What's that you were just saying about me
making threats? There isn't a single thing I've seen you criticise
others for that you don't demonstrate (often in the very next
sentence) yourself as being. Even the criminal part turned out to be
true of you.

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<snip>

Heh, heh, heh, heh, heh. Little sonny boy's squirming now.

With your cover being blown, you strike me like a child in fear of
getting his favorite toy taken away. Not so much fun when people do
to you what you've been doing to others, is it, Sonny boy?

<snip>

LOL! Oh, big fucking deal. You got me scared now, Daddy's boy!

Before you go trying to dig up shit on *other* people, you've first
got to explain why your old man can't own up to what he's done first.

It makes you *both* hypocrites. With your cover blown, you no longer
possess any moral authority to accuse others of anything.

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Better help me out, here, Showboat.. What'd I do ? Talk to me ?

BWAAHHAAAHAA... You know the drill, don't you, Showboat ?

LMAO.. Yep.. there has been quite a few times in my life, when my knees
were shaking.. You can bet your sleazy ass, it wasn't in front of some
judge, though.. And you can bet some wannabe bully, like you didn't have
anything to do with it..

hmmm.. Sorry.. I never killed a man in a fist fight, dude.. Never set
anyone's house on fire, either..

ROTFLMAO.. whew.. That one is priceless.. Slingin' shit on a newsgroup is
"fun" isn't it, Showboat ? hmmm.. Better stick to it.. but, don't quit your
day job..

aaaahhhhh... Good to know, Showboat.. You're bought and paid for.. <evil
grin>

hmmm.. never thought about it, but that's about your speed, alright..
Showboat.. From women pedestrians in Canada .. to seniors in Texas..
hehehe.. All that "reloadin" just ain't worth the trouble, is it ?

Usenet is a wonderful medium, isn't it.. Showboat.. Nah.. threats from you
can't really be taken seriously.. LOL...You try too damn hard..

There isn't a single thing I've seen you criticise

That's interesting.. Ah well.. The lesson learned, here should be .. "next
time you post a lot of nonsense about yourself, you should think it
through.. You got so impressed with your talent of being a bully, you got
your bullshit story torn apart.. Too bad, Showboat.. Talk to Iggy.. he needs
attention from someone, anyone..

 

Ah yes. "Lesson" is the word and you've been taught a good one.

Your lesson, Bill, is that what goes around, comes around. In the
long run, those who show no mercy recieve none from others.

Notice how no one (except your dumb-**** son) is coming to your
defense? Know why that is, Bill? It's because people don't respect
you. That, and the fact people recognize you have it coming, based on
your past treatment of others.

You and your son, for years, have demonstrated your eagerness to drag
the reputations of people through the dirt. I've never seen anyone go
at that with such zealousness, against so many people and for so long.
And, all along, you did while proclaiming you hold to such higher
moral standards, of course.

Such a coincidence that, for some reason, such charges only arise
against those who have stood up to refute you. You're either
unbelievably lucky in your enemies or incredibly debased in your moral
conduct.

You make very serious, baseless accusations and refuse to show the
evidence backing it up, use conjecture, innuendo and insinuation to
twist peoples' words and, thereby, undermine everyone's willingness to
share motorcycling experiences online.

You sicken people. Even taking the case of a fellow motorcyclist
having a stroke and ending up in an accident - then fabricating an
online story that he fled the scene. Apparently, anything is fair in
your mind, when it comes to people you don't like. I've seen you do
the same thing in my case as well, of course. And in Sunny's and
others. You guys are human filth; self-aggrandizers and hypocrites of
the worst kind who love a place on the podium, so you can preach how
motorcyclists should lend support to each other.

And now, after all your long history of doing such things, what do we
discover? The State of Texas has you listed as a fucking thief.
That's about as irrefutable as evidence gets.

And yet, you would have people believe that the unproven, distorted
things you have to say about ALL THOSE OTHER PEOPLE is true. But they
should not believe the records made public by the Texas penal system.
Within your self-serving moral framework, the former is okay, while
the latter is unfair.

That is why, when you attack me on rec.moto, others will jump to my
defense without my asking. Like many, I've had a few disputes on
occasion, but I haven't made it my hobby to look for ways to destroy
peoples' reputations, as you and your son's years of efforts proven
about you.

So here I am, on your home turf, tearing you a new asshole, while
people silently nod in agreement (if not rejoicing). That's your
reputation. See if you can "man up" to that.

If you were to find something else to derive your sick enjoyment from,
besides trying to trash others' reputations, you might be given a
break and not have your criminal record waved in front of your face.
It's up to you, whether or not you choose to rehabilitate yourself,
now that you've been exposed as a hypocrite.

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~~~~~jonathon swift suggest~~~~~
~~~set up a newsreader on your wifes puter for a week just for grins.
you may not go back to WTV and she may have to kick you off her computer
once you see what you are missing. Free Agent and a bunch of other
newsreaders are readily available for free download and will greatly
improve your, and everyone elses, newsgroup experience.

~~~~~~~~~~~`bjay ponders~~~~~~
I am impressed that your memory served you well, I am(!)
You remembered that there is a real computer in the household...!
I may just take your advice, senior'.
I may cow down, and check it out.
<>jonathon, yu have corresponded with me,on several occasions, on other
threads, and now on thisen.
(?) Is it that, you don't mind taking the time..&.or extra effort to see
what this WTV'er has to say?
(?) Is it a large ordeal?
I rarely try to respond with much more than a couple of ''quotes''
tagged on, understand. ?. thanx, b.j.kana

 

<><>ROAD HARD DON, settles down and responds-----
----Good advice, AV. You got waaaay more patience with that guy than I
do!
--
`~~~~~~bjay here~~~~~~
above RGD, actually speaks with a civil tongue.
I say to RGD, he won't hear it, but, I will anyway: <> uhhhh, Don, AV
is one of many Gentlemen in here, as for as I'm concerned.
Don, I even responded to a couple of Gents in your neck of the woods.
<>
So far, Don, you're not one of them, and I am sure you don't give a
shit, what I think.

 

hmmm... Unbelievably funny... ROTFL.. better get back to the evil grinnin'
...huh Showboat.. hehehe.. Hell.. boy.. you can't even come up with ANYTHING
original, ain't that a hoot ? I've always encouraged everyone to stay out
of these cute little "flame wars"..

Interesting to notice, the ones defending your sorry bullshit, are the same
ones I trailed back to YOUR backyard and gave them hell for about two
months.. Glad to see such an interest, from you, in a Texas motorcycle
newsgroup..

The namedropping that you have already done is more comical than anything
I've read from you.. Prime examples of wannabes like you.. You are wrong ..
though.. I didn't have to "expose" them .. They each one.. did it
themselves.. Usenet impersonators usually do..

All that "criminal record" of mine that you keep trying to crow about, is
probably the funniest one of all.. but entirely within keeping, for a fool
like you ..You are quickly becoming too boring to bother with ..

Bill Walker
Irving, Tx.

 

do it, don't cost nuthin'

never minded helping someone figure new stuff out if it looks like they
are receptive and it will help things overall.

painful, agonizing, dreadful....<g>

nah, just slightly different. you've made an effort to fight thru the
WTV oddities and that deserves some recognition. lots of people won't
waste time with newbies and are of the opinion someone should be versed
in netiquette before posting, and that's not necessarily out of line
either; usenet is not just a playground.
i think it's more a question of you only having seen usenet thru WTV and
not seeing it for what it is when handled with a real newsreader and how
it really works. there are standardized protocols in newsreaders that
WTV either doesn't follow properly or implement at all, but if you have
only used WTV, you can't see that. it's that moped on the freeway. i
think i've mentioned this before, but google up "netiquette" and take a
scan of it. you will see many things talked about that you may have
seen complained of here.

snipping to only the salient points is a good plan, one doesn't have to
reread entire posts 5 times just to get to a one liner at the end.
anyone following the thread will know what's up. netiquette mentions
that, and good newsreaders will let you highlite the part of a post you
wish to respond to and then it creates the new response post with just
that section already cut and quoted, waiting for you to finish your
response. kapiche ?

 

Nice try, Brian, attempting to divert to another case. Your problem
is that no one has to take anyone else's word on this. Anyone who
wants to can view your father's criminal record online for themselves,
courtesy of the Texas penal system.

About as substantiated as when people claim you caused your daughter's
death, right? Man, it must suck, having seen people say that and now
realizing that you do exactly the same thing to others, every chance
you get. You're every bit as big a hypocrite as your father.

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