What are Tappets?

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by Suraj Joneja, Dec 10, 2004.

  1. Suraj Joneja

    Suraj Joneja Guest

    I'm trying to understand how bike engines work and wanna know what is the
    role of tappets exactly.

    thanks!
    suraj
     
    Suraj Joneja, Dec 10, 2004
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  2. Exactly the same as all other four-stroke petrol engines :)
    On an overhead-valve engine they fill the gap between the lobe on the
    camshaft and the end of the pushrod. Pushrod runs to the rocker-arm,
    rocker-arm works the valve and typically has a screw-and-locknut arrangement
    to set the valve clearances. On an overhead-cam engine where the camshaft
    operates the valves directly the tappet goes between cam-lobe and valve stem
    and there are shims located in the tappet to set the valve clearance.

    HTH

    SteveM
     
    Stephen Malbon, Dec 10, 2004
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  3. Suraj Joneja

    SAMMMMM Guest

    they're the cam followers, the pieces which rub on the cam.

    sammmmm
     
    SAMMMMM, Dec 10, 2004
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  4. No, they're not.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Dec 10, 2004
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  5. Suraj Joneja

    TaskMule Guest

    Another informative post from the simpleton lol
     
    TaskMule, Dec 10, 2004
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  6. Well, for the benefit of the hard of thinking - that's you, that is -
    cam followers are the bits that rub on the cam. That end of the rocker
    arm.

    The tappets are at the *other* end of the rocker arm, and they bear on
    the end of the valve stem.

    Now, what were you going to say they were?

    (Clue: adjusters)
     
    The Older Gentleman, Dec 10, 2004
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  7. Hmmm.... yes, I suppose so. But an extraordinary number of DOHC engines
    have used screw and locknut adjusters rather than shims: more than
    enough to consider the use of them rare.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Dec 13, 2004
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  8. For ****'s sake.

    Who said "a little learning is a dangerous thing"?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Dec 13, 2004
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  9. Suraj Joneja

    Blank Guest

    Tappets refer to the valve actuating mechanism. Specifically, they are
    what directly follows the cam. Sometimes tappets are in the form of
    lifters, or bucket and shim assemblies. They have even been referred to
    as rockers with threaded adjusters. But generally, they are what is
    directly touching the cams.
     
    Blank, Dec 13, 2004
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  10. These are generally called "cam followers"
    They are the bits *at the other end* of the rocker arm which touch the
    valve.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Dec 14, 2004
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  11. Suraj Joneja

    Suraj Joneja Guest

    Thanks a Ton! I understand now.

    Can somebody point me to a 3d animation etc. where I can see?

    thanks
    Suraj
     
    Suraj Joneja, Dec 14, 2004
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  12. Hoh yus.

    I remember shimming a Yamaha FZ750 once: 20 bloody valves, and cams
    out.....
     
    The Older Gentleman, Dec 14, 2004
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  13. Shimming the Ducati Desmoquattro -- two shims for each valve, cams out!
     
    Michael Sierchio, Dec 14, 2004
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  14. "The Older Gentleman" <>
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    I remember checking the valves on a 80,000+ mi GL1000.
    Popped the valve covers off loosened the lock nuts in
    anticipation of adjusting the valves...no need to adjust. I
    hate when that happens...all that work for nothing.

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    Keith Schiffner, Dec 14, 2004
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  15. Suraj Joneja

    Blank Guest

    I *don't* hate to inform you, but you are not completely correct. the
    point is, the person with the question has been satisfied, but a tappet
    is not always the parts that *ahem* "touch the valve"
    check some manuals, you'll see.
     
    Blank, Dec 15, 2004
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  16. Suraj Joneja

    Rob Munach Guest

    Yeah, I was just complaining the other day on what a pain in the ass it
    is to adjust the valves on my BMW Airhead. :> After doing the valves on
    my GPz550 (16 shims, cams out), I bought the BMW.
     
    Rob Munach, Dec 15, 2004
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  17. Suraj Joneja

    Bob Scott Guest

    I've a sneaking suspicion I can remember the bike you're on about - it
    wasn't a project bike for a magazine, was it?

    If so it had me looking for a cheap FZ for a wee while, at least until I
    found a cheap VFR.
     
    Bob Scott, Dec 15, 2004
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  18. Suraj Joneja

    SAMMMMM Guest

    it's always nice to have someone watch the group so that errors don't creep
    in.
    you're correct.

    often the tappet doesn't touch the valve. it generally, however, touches
    the cam.
    sammmm
     
    SAMMMMM, Dec 15, 2004
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  19. Suraj Joneja

    Bob Scott Guest

    Lovely wee bikes - IIRC they went mono shock then rising rate mono shock
    a year or 2 later. Not sure when they stopped selling them here but it
    was well into the '90s.

    The pre-diversion (Seca 2?) Yamaha XJ600 was a very similar bike albeit
    not quite so pretty while the Honda & Suzuki equivalents (CBX550 &
    GSX550E) didn't seem nearly as nice.
     
    Bob Scott, Dec 15, 2004
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  20. Suraj Joneja

    Bob Scott Guest

    Absolutely, the uni-trak was rising rate. However, IIRC, the very first
    mono shock Z550GP (in the UK anyway) came with a triangulated swingarm
    rather than a uni-trak as can be seen here:

    http://www.jmurray3.us/newsite/newimages/gpz550.jpg

    I've also got vague memories of a friend having to retire his example of
    this in a hurry after the paint flaked of the shock mount to reveal lots
    of rust & not much metal...
     
    Bob Scott, Dec 15, 2004
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