What 125?

I am thinking of getting a cheapish second-hand 125cc as a second bike so
that my learner son can ride it as well. Apart from the redoubtable CG125
(MTSOTHPR) what other 125s would people consider if they HAD to ride one?

 

Honda CR125
Honda RS125
Yamaha TZ125

Maybe, at a push, Aprilia RS125. But the Honda would be better.

 

Bear emerged from their own little world to say

I passed my test on a GS125. Later ones have electric start and a disc
brake on the front. I'd use one for an urban commute under 5 miles and it
is a good learner bike.

Rexx had a DT125 which was alright. A lot more street cred for the
youngster. Odds on that it gets nicked from outside the Spar shop when he
pops in for 10 Lambert & Butler though.

 

TMack says...

Any 125 trail bike.

 

TMack wiffled:

If you ever see a Kawasaki KH125, go for it. Really good fun up to about 65.

 

I'm not an expert (but then again, I suspect I have as much or more
knowledge of riding current-ish 125s than many posters here), but I'm
rather fond of my Hyosung Aquila GV125. It is a physically large bike
for a 125 (although not that heavy at 146Kg), and has a relatively
torquey (again, for a 125 4 stroke) V-twin engine which is as close to
the legal limit for a basic 125 as it is possible to get, all of which I
believe is probably a good thing for anyone looking to move to a larger
capacity bike.

Mine has been flawlessly reliable for then 2000 miles I've put on it so
far. It is a cruiser though, and not only that, it looks remarkably like
a Harley Fat Boy if you squint enough too - so that probably makes me a
great big girly shirt-lifting tosspiece in the eyes of many here. There
is the Hyosung Comet which is a naked sportier-looking bike with the
same engine as the Aquila if that's more your thing (or if you're at all
insecure about your sexuality...).

The other 125 I looked at seriously was the Varadero (another 4-stroke
V-Twin). They are stupidly expensive to buy new - too expensive for me,
but I know someone who's had one for a similar length of time as I've
had the Hyosung, and he's very happy with it.

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, "Lemmiwinks, The

You will never, ever know how close I came to cross-posting this to
reekie.

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets
and Ducati Race Engineer.

WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"

 

[Hrm... I suspect I may have been wooshed, but...]

I don't read that group. What would be likely happen if you did
cross-post it? Would I get laughed at and poked with sticks for some
reason? If so, I reckon I can probably take it...

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, "Lemmiwinks, The

Oh, I reckon we could be on for a full-scale lynching.

Of course, most of them would drown whilst trying to drive here, with
the bike on the trailer behind their pickup.

<thinks>

Ah, **** it...

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets
and Ducati Race Engineer.

WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"

 

Coo! Sounds interesting...

If they had the good sense to get a nice, reliable, Korean-made Fat Boy
lookalike like the Hyosung GV125 they wouldn't need to put their bikes
on a trailer in the first place.

....how am I doing?

 

"Lemmiwinks, The Gerbil King"
message

Lemmiwinks YTC...most of us ride year round. 8^)
Some of us do it on "Shit old GL1000's" or go
spend $50 on a knackered DR370 because it isn't AS
knackered as the uninitiated perceive.

--
Keith Schiffner
RCOS #7
Assistant to the Assistant Undersecretary of the
Ministry of Silly Walks.
"terrorist organization" is a redundancy

 

Look, we all know you guys have massive licensing and hp restrictions
but a Hyosung 125 troll ?

Maybe you guys will get lucky after everyone in the US buys enough of
those Hinckley Triumphs this time around.

At some point Bloor may be able to start selling them a little cheaper
to the home market as we use so many.

Then buying the Trabant / Yugo / Hyosung issue is null and void and
essentially a novelty driven purchase on a cost and reliabilty basis
alone.

Tell me of any Hyosung 250,000 mile ridden bike stories equivalent to
the T309 courier ridden bike from London that Triumph bought back from
the owner that didnt have the head removed once.

None of them have that sort of mileage yet, or do you have proof
otherwise ?

 

Some of us do it on "Shit old GL1000's" or go spend $50 on a knackered

You could do both.
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I'd have thought a Hyosung 125 is the sort of thing you'd sling out over
the top box of a Harley, on a pair of davits.

 

Half a million noodle sellers in Seoul beg to differ.

 

And there you go pointing out how they -don't- have credibility.

Where is the Hyosung race heritage, trials ,flat tracking ,road racing
GP event participation and land speed records etc etc. ?

 

In message <>,

I have to ask; what do they need race heritage, trials, flat tracking,
road racing, GP event participation and land speed records for?

In the modern world, the companies that are likely to survive are those
that leverage the R&D done by others and buy in components and expertise
as appropriate. Racing (and being successful at it) is perhaps good
advertising, but overall the feedback into the road going product is
limited

To my mind, a more important question might be "Do Hyosung produce a
massive accessory catalogue so you can spend a fortune trying to turn
what you buy into an acceptably useful motorcycle or are owners
generally happy with how the bikes perform as supplied?"

 

MZ ETZ125 or TS125.

You did say cheap.

 

For short trips a small capacity 2 stroke can't be beat.

 

In the same gallery as Harley's race heritage (flat tracking excepted).

Or BMW's (the odd bit of sidecar lunacy excepted)

Or Triumph's (post-Meriden)

I'll not deny that race success adds a certain je-ne-sais-quoi, but
saying that the absence of it denies a marque credibility is a bit
blinkered, even for a Left-Pondian.