Westminster Council to charge for bike spaces

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by MA, Jan 3, 2007.

  1. I struggle to understand your comments as virtually every bus service
    has had some form of improvement over the last few years. As you are in
    Metroline land (if I've read between the lines properly) you might have
    suffered as a result of some of their recent poor performance. Not sure
    why they got worse but the performance stats haven't been good on a fair
    slice of their services. What are your local services?

    The other point to make is that the bus network overall is carrying much
    higher numbers of passengers than when Ken took over. Now OK it's cost a
    lot of money in terms of subsidy (most from central government and not
    the precept) but it's a better service and helping London to function as
    a City. The only downside that is becoming apparent is that some routes
    that are very popular are starting to "creak" a little and there is not
    the money around to maintain the former speed of improvement although
    there has been a recent spurt of beneficial changes since October and
    lots more planned through to next Summer.
    These sorts of issues don't bother me at all. A fair proportion of
    politicians make foreign trips for all sorts of reasons and while I am
    not a fan of taxis I can see how it might be difficult to keep to Ken's
    schedule if he had to go everywhere by bus and tube and shank's pony. I
    can see the advantage of using cabs where time is valuable and you
    really do need door to door transport. Would you prefer he had an
    official limo instead?

    I do detect a strong "I hate Ken" line from you which is almost worthy
    of the Daily Mail. I don't think your politics are quite in line with
    those of Associated Newspapers so I find your dissent even more
    noteworthy. He's an astute politician and at least has been brave
    enough to try things like the congestion charge, has fought to get
    strong and sustained government funding for rail improvements and
    recognises the need to have plans for a city like London. There's been
    less "lunacy" than there was in GLC days. I'd say that's a big
    improvement on where we were before there was a Mayoralty.
     
    Paul Corfield, Jan 6, 2007
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  2. MA

    Pete Fisher Guest

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    the location until the new growth starts a bit.


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  3. Urm, let me see - 245, 316, 232, 266, 32, 632 and N16. Is that Metroline?
    It's been the 316 and 245 that are a pain - especilaly the 316 which is very
    difficult to get on in rush hour and infrequnt outside then. If you get on
    a 245, you have to change. The alternaitve to using them is to walk about a
    mile to past Crickleoowd Garage. Or change busses. The other problem is that
    we *used* to have a bus service that ran all the way to Victoria. Now, you
    have to change, which is a pain and an extra cost, even with Oyster. It's
    absurdly messy.

    There's a plan to build a new BR station which will help, but it's ten years
    off.
    I wouldn't mind what he did if he wasn't so hypocritical about it - and that
    cab bill was simply for his home to office stuff, so I'd love to know how it
    ramped up so much. Besides which, I'm not convinced that from where he
    lives, it's any faster by cab! He's a five minute walk from Cricklewood BR
    and about ten minutes from the Tube.

    I think *all* politicians should travel with ordinary people at least some
    of the time - and in general, shoudl have far more conact with the masses
    than they do.
    <snort> No, I think my politics are somewhat to the left of AN.

    He's an astute politician and at least has been brave
    I'm basing the dislike on his track record as our MP as well, which was
    abysmal. I've never really forgotten his support for the IRA, for one thing.

    And the fact that he railroads local councils and is trying to take power
    away from them to a huge extent. I am very much in favour of real devolved
    power, as local as possible. I don't like any system that places so much
    power in the hands of one individual, which the Mayoralty has done. And yes,
    I can see the argument for far more coherence of overall planning in London,
    but there is a huge risk in how far this is now going.

    I remember the GLC very well indeed; ILEA for example, worked well. And
    there were periods of GLC authority which weren't loony at all.

    Ali
     
    Alison Hopkins, Jan 6, 2007
  4. Sadly not. Some generally useful packets of seeds as a sort of ta for the
    horseradish.

    Ali
     
    Alison Hopkins, Jan 6, 2007
  5. MA

    Pip Guest

    "Mayor Champion" has a certain ring to it.
    Sounds fare enough.
     
    Pip, Jan 6, 2007
  6. Yes all those routes are Metroline operated and most from Cricklewood
    garage which I think has had some issues over reliability. Certainly
    many of the routes in your list are busy.

    You may be interested to learn that there are changes proposed for the
    316 and 16. The 16 would be very slightly reduced in frequency. The 316
    will be cut back to Cricklewood Garage but extended at the other end on
    to White City Shopping Centre. A new 332 bus would run from Brent Park
    over the 316 to Cricklewood Broadway then via the 16 as far as Edgware
    Road flyover and then round the corner to Paddington. The 332 will be a
    double deck route.

    That might help a bit in terms of adding some capacity and an extra
    route into the very edge of the West End.
    Not aware of that one.
    I personally don't count taxis as public transport but many people do.
    I'm sure Ken would argue he was using public transport. He does use the
    tube - we know because we get the questions if he gets stuck! I
    I agree but a fair old slice of them do. I've seen lots of MPs on the
    Tube and many use the main line railway.
    Well you have that direct experience but unless my MP had personally
    failed to deal with one of my issues I'm not sure I would hold an
    ongoing grudge against a MP. I reserve grudges for more noteworthy
    targets.

    I can understand the IRA issue but Northern Ireland strikes me as an
    issue where no side comes out smelling of roses. I don't think standing
    shoulder square with the Protestants and British Army is any better
    position. I have no religious conviction that leans more to one side
    than the other so far as NI is concerned.
    On balance I would have preferred the return of a GLC form of London
    government rather than the Mayoralty. Yes there are risks in
    concentrating power in the ones of one person but the counterbalance is
    that one person can often get stuff done that a committee approach would
    not. The other issue is that having a Mayor means there is one person
    to get rid off rather than a plethora of people. I'd still argue it's
    better than the Boroughs arguing and doing nothing with added anonymous
    quangos conducting business in secret.
     
    Paul Corfield, Jan 6, 2007
  7. <shrug> YMMV, as they say. Dave is normally carrying assorted heavy things -
    and he does walk it quite often, although it means his journey to work can
    be an hour and a half or more. Which is daft, given the total distance. If
    it was a matter of walking a mile or so to get to work, it would be fine:
    but it's walk to bus stop. Wait for bus. Get bus to Tube. Change twice on
    Tube. So, it is very time consuming.

    I can't walk it, but don't have to, as I drive to work on those days I go
    to an office. I'll rephrase that. If it was on the flat, and I did not have
    to carry an absurdly heavy laptop and a briefcase, I could probably do it,
    depending on how bad my walking was on the day. (Arthritic degeneration of
    the L5 disc in my spine.)

    Ali
     
    Alison Hopkins, Jan 6, 2007
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    ogden Guest

    Only representing his constituents, I'd have thought. It's only a couple
    of years since I last saw a pub in Kilburn (on the Brent side of the
    High Road) with a poster outside saying how much they'd raised for 'the
    cause'. And that (McGoverns) was one of the nicer ones.
     
    ogden, Jan 6, 2007
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    platypus Guest

    Senior Citizens' Railcard?
     
    platypus, Jan 6, 2007
  10. MA

    platypus Guest

    <mwah>
     
    platypus, Jan 6, 2007
  11. Heh. Clever fellow.

    Ali
     
    Alison Hopkins, Jan 6, 2007
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    dwb Guest

    After having done that for Didcot - I wouldn't bother.

    You won't change anything, you won't be able to air your complaints (as
    it's not supposed to be about your individual issues) and ultimately,
    all they did was waffle without ever listening and they certianly were
    never proactive - ie ask their customer panel what customers like them
    MIGHT think about their latest ideas BEFORE introducing them,

    The customer panel is a fluff piece designed to make First look good
    which, occasionally, accidently makes enough noise to get the odd
    customer improvement - nothing more.
     
    dwb, Jan 6, 2007
  13. It's even less effective now because FGW are just doing what government
    have mandated. Therefore the power to change stuff is at the DfT. Given
    that every newspaper in the West Country is full of articles about how
    shit FGW and their service is I can't see a customer panel will make any
    difference at all. People need to start saying they'll vote out their
    Labour MPs for anything to change. Oh and threatening to sell their
    First Group shares.
     
    Paul Corfield, Jan 6, 2007
  14. Blimey. Kill or cure for the lurgy. :)
    Yeah, can someone tell me what happened to the concept of true portability?
    Heh. I can sort of empathise with that - I had two laptops nicked from
    supposedly secure offices. Makes one paranoid. Thobbut, if there's decent
    networked backup, I'd not care.
    Ah, but I am all over the place, so to speak. I'm theoretically based in an
    office, but only go in a few days a month - I'm with customers/partners or
    working from home the rest of the time. So, my laptop has *everything* on
    it. I also end up working in the evenings a lot, as I'm dealing with people
    based in Vancouver. Most of my colleagues have similar work patterns, hence
    the need to schlep the damn thing.

    Ali
     
    Alison Hopkins, Jan 7, 2007
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    deadmail Guest

    What about the office supplies for your ebay shop?
     
    deadmail, Jan 7, 2007
  16. None whatsoever. It's an opinion.
    I'll alert the media.
     
    Soylent Green, Jan 8, 2007
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    ogden Guest

    One of my biggest issues with FGW at the moment, other than the shitty
    timetable they've been forced to cobble together, is the fact that the
    interests of a long distance operator are almost entirely incompatible
    with those of a short range commuter service. The whole business seems
    geared towards providing a hunky dory HST-based inter-city service while
    shunting commuter-belt passengers onto shit buses on rails if/when they
    can be arsed to let them use the line. It's crap. All I want is a train
    to work at a reasonable time in the morning with some chance of a seat -
    redecoration of HSTs means sod all to me while we (the poor sods who pay
    in advance every month) get a second-rate service on second-rate trains.

    Grumble grumble grumble.
     
    ogden, Jan 8, 2007
  18. I've never sat _anywhere_. The whole point of having a bike, see?
     
    Soylent Green, Jan 8, 2007
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