Well I have been 500 miles...

No, not the proclaimers, the running in period. No more 4000 rev limit,
thank ****.

 

Good init? I am now on 750 miles so can go to 6000 revs... whoopee doo.

I think it is 1000 miles before I can use the rest on the revs[1] on my
bike, so should be there by Sunday.

David

[1] The other 4500, it red lines at 10,500

 

420 here.

But I thought "fuckit" and gave it some welly earlier.

By god the horizon doesn't half come towards you quickly.

First service is next Saturday when it should be nicely on 600 miles.

 

Well I was tempted but to be honest I doubt the horizon would have come up
any quicker... mines an ER-5.

Still at least my first service is out of the way at 652 miles[1], so
hopefully a clear run to 4000 miles now, fingers crossed.

[1] That sounds real anal, I meant 600ish

 

Away you go young man.

 

I subscribe to Champ's method. It works for me.

 

You only get one chance to run it in. Not so bad if you have the HOG
approach. If the engines fucked by 10K who cares. I'll have sold it by 5K.

 

After what happened to your GSXRs engine, I'm not sure it did work for
you.

 

No idea how fast I was going, when I'm doing that I don't tend to
watch the speedo.

 

That was a know fault. You Champ's method exposes known faults.

 

"eric the brave" <""simonb_at_zapik_dot_co_dot_uk\"@foo.com (eric the
brave)"> wrote in message

I have read in quite a few places that Champ's (or more radical) does
produce more power from an engine. The key, as Champ said, is to listen to
what your engine is telling you. I know mine was a bit tight so I modified
Champ's charter to suit.

 

There is a huuuuge amount of bollocks spoken about the running in of
engines. Most of it relates to a bygone era of design and material science.
For instance an RD400 rebuild requires much more care than a new Gixxer
thou.
I think this guy talks sense: www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

and to the other **** ^^^ up there! I was referring to 50K and 100K miles
and not many bikes ever get past 50k.

Talking for more recent Beemers, nickasil liner types, I've seen the bores,
pistons, cam and main bearing surfaces of careful aged riders Vs couriers. I
thought the hard used engines looked fine. Thrashed from 500 miles, not
lying in garages for months but serviced and oil changed on the dot.

IMHO a K100/1100 engine, run in the right way, with decent oil/filter every
5000 or so, it likely to last 500k with th odd clutch/sprag.

 

I still say you only have one chance to run it in properly. I can
remember all this with Honda Fireblades. The quickly run in ones where
fine till 10k then the power was normally less than a well one in one.
Tightness of cam shaft bearings was the overriding difference in power
output in most bikes. A factory tolerance problem.

I quite agree with Champs article. However Champs write up mentions
nothing of heat cycles. It's the heat cycles that bed an engine in. Too
much heat too soon will cause the internals to be forced together too
much and pre-mature wear will rake place. So it's a very fine line we
are talking about here.

As I said before, You only get one chance to run it in. It's like a
interview. You only get one chance to get it right.

 

There is a huge amount of bollocks talked about on the internet. Just
because MotorMan wants to sell stuff he writes stuff. Just take a look
at http://www.zx-10r.net/ if you want an example. I am a mechanical
engineer by trade and qualifications, also a indentured Tool maker. So I
do understand something about this.

All I'm really saying is that "You only get one chance". You can run it
in how you wish. As you've stated before, It won't be your problem anyway.

Running in race bikes is different. You don't need to worry about longevity.

 

Personally, I reckon Kawasaki know best what the engine they designed
requires as far as running in goes so I'll attempt to reasonably stick
to it.

Champ's recommendations aren't too different from Kawasaki's apart
from the rev limits.

 

That's pretty much exactly what the 10R manual says, apart from being
4k for the first 400, then 6k to 600.

 

I think these are pretty much within the spirit of what I said and what the
article suggests. That first 500 miles is key.

 

I don't rememebr reading anything about throttle use, but my take on
every bikre has been 1/2 for the first couple of hundred miles, 3/4 for
the next couple of hundred, and occasionally full after that... but
always on a well warmed up engine.

 

It's the slamming on the brakes and slowing right down for corners that gets
me. I was nearly up his chuff at the TT.
Trackday tuition, and lots of it.

 

Except oddly I do find it comfortable.

The main reason for buying it is that since the mallory trackday last
year I've all too frequently found myself thrashing the tits off the
ZRX, and I wanted something more sporty. I was going to go for a gixxer
750 originally, but the 10R worked out to be as comfy, and a fair bit
cheaper, so I figured why not.

Don't regret it, the bike is great fun.