Well I dunno...

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by JackH, Dec 7, 2004.

  1. JackH

    JackH Guest

    ....what shit it is exactly that they're coating the roads with this year,
    but it, (at least down here in Kent), is far more slippery out there right
    now than it normally is for the time of year, day or night.

    I've just got in from a blat on the bike... I say blat, but in the loosest
    sense - even after having warmed the tyres up over several miles, attempting
    to 'make progress' in a straight line invariably ended up with a session of
    rear tyre lighting.

    For all I know, it was just as bad in corners, but I wasn't prepared to
    research this as extensively.

    Even the Golf, which is normally very well planted and grippy, has been all
    over the shop at times at relatively sensible corner speeds, and when
    pulling away from junctions etc., since they've apparently gritted the
    roads.

    Is it just around here that's like this, or has anyone else noticed it's
    noticeably more slippery on the roads than it normally is for the time of
    year?
     
    JackH, Dec 7, 2004
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  2. I've noticed it as well. The roads have a wet appearance even though the
    prevailing conditions are dry.

    Very precarious.
     
    Whinging Courier, Dec 7, 2004
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  3. JackH

    Gunga Dan Guest

    That's funny, I was just thinking more or less the same thing this morning
    after a 'moment'. I'd put it down to it being a long time since last winter
    and poor remembering skills. As WH says though, even when dry it's dodgy.

    I've never been a big fan of salt spreading for reasons of corrosion but if
    the stuff they're spreading is as slippery as the ice it's supposed to be
    preventing, what's the point.

    And another thing... I had to go out during the day last week and at about
    2:30 they'd already gritted. It wasn't freezing, it wasn't forecast to
    freeze and what they had spread was rapidly being dispersed by the traffic.
    Madness.
     
    Gunga Dan, Dec 7, 2004
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  4. AOL in Slurrey

    Was thinking that on the way home last night after the third wriggle of
    the rear wheel on fairly innocuous corners...and decided it was me being
    crap. Phew! (Disclaimer: I still reserve the right to be crap...).

    Any theories as to WTF is up with the roads this year? The back lanes
    are even worse.

    Chris
     
    Middleaged Mutant Ninja Rider, Dec 8, 2004
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  5. JackH

    dwb Guest

    Moss :)
     
    dwb, Dec 8, 2004
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  6. JackH

    Champ Guest

    Such short memories you people have.

    It's winter. The roads have been salted.
     
    Champ, Dec 8, 2004
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  7. This is true. In all seriousness, I'm thinking of trying a particular
    corner somewhere that's still to be decided, and see if it is as bad
    next year. I really don't remember the roads being slimy before;
    slippery, yes, but not slimy.

    Maybe I should try some Omega 6+3 fish oils like someone suggested to me
    about a year ago :)
    Yep, there's so much of the stuff you can taste it in the air (this I
    *do* remember from last year)
     
    Whinging Courier, Dec 8, 2004
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  8. JackH

    sweller Guest

    Goldfish short as this topic was covered last week.
     
    sweller, Dec 8, 2004
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  9. Does no-one on this ng understand throttle control and driving/riding
    to the conditions?

    All this talk of wheelspin and 'lighting up the rear' from someone else
    is just people confessing to not being able to control their vehicles.
     
    Simon Atkinson, Dec 8, 2004
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  10. JackH

    Muck Guest

    More like, a lack of self control imho.
     
    Muck, Dec 8, 2004
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  11. Why post moaning about the percieved lack of grip then? If it's so
    much fun get out there and fill your boots.
     
    Simon Atkinson, Dec 8, 2004
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  12. JackH

    JackH Guest

    *sigh*

    It was an observation about the current road conditions, not a confession
    that I've come that close to stacking the car or bike...

    The bike was breaking traction when provoked by a large handful at times
    last night, when I was exploring the current condition limits.

    The car however, especially when loaded up, has
    Is it, ****...

    The point I was making, oh Sister Mary of the Immaculate (driving)
    Conception, is even when it's obviously well above freezing, the roads are
    far more slippery than normal for the time of year, even taking into account
    the fact they've been gritted / salted, by now.

    My current take on it, having spoken to a member of the local highways
    department, is they've been a bit too free and easy with the salt so far
    this year, and the general lack of rain of late means it hasn't had a chance
    to be washed away as of yet.

    You will note I'm posting from the prospective of not having lobbed the
    bike, or stacked the car as a result of doing hundreds of miles on said
    slippery roads already this week, so poke your IAM stylee rubbish up your
    TCS / ABS covered arse.

    HTH
     
    JackH, Dec 8, 2004
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  13. JackH

    JackH Guest

    I rather thought 'what shit it is exactly that they're coating the roads
    with this year', was more than a passing acknowledgement to 'salting' etc.

    YMMV
     
    JackH, Dec 8, 2004
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    Greybeard Guest

    Nope,
    I took the ol' girl for a spin [1] (literally!) and must admit, it's still
    as slippy out there as it was last Friday.
    There certainly seems something different about the slop they're putting on
    the roads.
    Cambs councils apparently are using some sort of salt/sugar cocktail.
    It certainly ain't nice on 2 wheels, that's for sure.

    [1] Trumpet Trophy
     
    Greybeard, Dec 8, 2004
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  15. It's sort of winter now. It's like this (on the roads and on UKRM) year
    after year.
    Is that a bite then?
     
    Simon Atkinson, Dec 8, 2004
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  16. JackH

    JackH Guest

    ....bugger.

    The car however, especially when loaded up, has broken traction without any
    real provocation when pulling away at times, and this is not the norm for
    the time of year, salted roads or otherwise.

    In fact its not the norm even when its icy, in all honesty, and the amount
    of shit it gets caked in after a day of multidrops in and around the local
    area suggest there is too much salt kicking about.
     
    JackH, Dec 8, 2004
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  17. As you said yourself - it was frosty one night last week and they
    salted - and it's not rained since then. The salt is just sitting on
    the road, soaking up water from the atmosphere and keeping the roads
    damp and shitty.

    It's horrible and a sod to clean off the bike each night, but that's
    just part of the riding in winter experience.
     
    Simon Atkinson, Dec 8, 2004
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  18. JackH

    Muck Guest

    Depends dunnit.
    It is a bit slippy for sure. It's all really a plot to bump the speed
    related accident figures up so they can lower the limits more. ;)
    Sugar! I'd like to know what that does for the mix.
     
    Muck, Dec 8, 2004
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  19. JackH

    JackH Guest

    Well, you look like you could do with fattening up a bit...

    But no.
     
    JackH, Dec 8, 2004
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  20. JackH

    JackH Guest

    Feel free to perform a rain dance.
     
    JackH, Dec 8, 2004
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