Weird plug failure.

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by Doug Warner, Jul 23, 2005.

  1. Doug Warner

    Doug Warner Guest

    This was in a lawnmower, but since there's no rec.mowers.tech group,
    so I'll discuss it here.

    Engine occasonally starts and runs for a few seconds, then cuts off
    suddenly. If I let it sit for 20 minutes or so, it catches again.
    It kept lookign like fuel starvation, but the float bowl contained
    gas. I even squirted a bit into the plug hole, not a pop..

    Checked spark with the plug removed and connected and grounded. I
    could see a small spark,

    Cleaned the plug, it started for a few seconds again. In fact, it
    seemed that every time I messed with the plug, it started and ran a
    few seconds.

    So, with only $2.00 to lose, I bought a new plug and installed it, not
    really believing it would work. First pull, fired right up.

    My guess is that as soon as it heated up a bit, it opend up (or
    shorted) when I cleaned it, I used solvent, which colled it down
    again.

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    Doug Warner, Jul 23, 2005
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  2. The multi-fire high energy ignition system would fire a 35KV spark even
    when the distributor rotor wasn't turning. It would arc inside the cap.
    I knew that if my Dodge van's engine didn't start the first try on a
    cold damp morning, it wouldn't start at all. The cap had carbon tracks
    inside it that couldn't be cleaned out, so I replaced it.
     
    krusty kritter, Jul 24, 2005
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  3. Small high-rpm engines don't need much voltage to light the fire inside
    if the fuel/air mixture is rich enough.

    The cheap low voltage ignition system is trying to raise the voltage
    high enough to overcome the air pressure inside the combustion chamber
    and make a spark jump the gap and voltage may be leaking away across
    carbon faster than the coil can make the voltage rise.

    (I have also suspected that moisture may condense on the spark plug
    electrodes inside the engine in a damp environment, shorting the plug
    that way. I used to heat my Honda's two spark plug with a torch when
    the engine wouldn't start.)

    The ignition spark will jump from the sharpest point on the center
    electrode to ground. It takes a few atoms of metal with it every time
    it jumps the gap. The electrodes erode and become rounded. That's why
    we file the center electrode flat.

    Small high RPM engines with low voltage coils need a rather
    uneconomically rich mixture to increase the possibility of burnable
    mixture passing through the narrow spark plug gap. High voltage systems
    can increase the gap and find burnable fuel in a leaner mixture.
     
    krusty kritter, Jul 24, 2005
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    Was it a Champion???
     
    pater, Jul 24, 2005
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