Waterproofing Treatments

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by trevrobwhite, Aug 20, 2007.

  1. trevrobwhite

    trevrobwhite Guest

    Sorry if this post is discussed elsewhere (I did search).

    I was wondering if someone knows the best waterproofing treatment for
    motorcycle jacket, trousers (and boots if available). The trousers
    (or pants in the USA) are the problem, I got them second hand off ebay
    they are Frank Thomas Aquapore but in certain areas they they a little
    water in when we experience our usual UK downpour. I didn't really
    want to replace them as I'm saving my money for my bike bike test (and
    a big bike) to use for commuting.

    I did some research on the net and found Nikwax waterproofing
    http://www.mountainfever.co.uk/acatalog/nikwax.html but wasn't sure if
    this is any good and which one I should by.

    Thanks for your help.

    Trev -
    27 years old just passed CBT (should have done it years ago) and
    really want to take my full test and get a REAL bike, but this Honda
    XR125L is saving me a fortune in petrol and is fun for the minute,
    would love a Suzuki SV-650 or even better a Suzuki GSXR600 sooner
    rather than later through! :)
     
    trevrobwhite, Aug 20, 2007
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    deadmail Guest

    My experience; waterproofing really doesn't work. Kit is either
    supplied waterproof or isn't. Goretex (or similar membranes) are the
    only things that work.
     
    deadmail, Aug 20, 2007
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  3. trevrobwhite

    darsy Guest

    *ding*

    I have had limited success re-waterproofing stuff that's started to
    leak a little, using NikWax Tecwash, but it was limited and temporary.
     
    darsy, Aug 20, 2007
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    Cane Guest

    I used a Hein Gerike all in one waterproof on Saturday night. That
    worked quite well but I've found very little that's been really
    waterproof.
     
    Cane, Aug 20, 2007
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  5. trevrobwhite

    darsy Guest

    didn't people point and laugh at the old people camping?
     
    darsy, Aug 20, 2007
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  6. trevrobwhite

    Cane Guest

    I don't do camping. Anyway we only live 15 mins up the road so it was
    easier to hop on the bike after the last band.

    I wore the all in one during the Foo Fighters as it had started to
    rain. Heather said I looked like someone in a hazmat suit going to
    deal with a chemical spill.
     
    Cane, Aug 20, 2007
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  7. trevrobwhite

    darsy Guest

    Oh right, my mistake.
     
    darsy, Aug 20, 2007
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  8. trevrobwhite

    Dave H. Guest

    "Cane" wrote...
    <Pikey mode on>

    We've got some textile jackets and trousers-with-braces[1] from (cough)
    AldiLidl[2], had them a couple of years and ridden in day-long rain (oh to
    be in England now that summer's there) without getting wet, apart from a
    trickle down the back of my neck once or twice (shouldn't give her rides on
    my shoulders, I guess). I can recommend 'em, but they only stock them once
    or twice a year as one of their one-week specials, come in at about £100 for
    the set.
    They're proper colours, too, Black with Black bits, although they have
    reflective strips set in a couple of the seams.

    <Toggle Pikey mode>
    --
    Dave H.
    (The engineer formerly known as Homeless)

    "Rules are for the obedience of fools, and the guidance of wise men" -
    Douglas Bader

    [1] With poppers holding the braces that pop open when touching toes, the
    only prob I've had with 'em apart from them being a bit warm in hot weather
    and [3] below...
    [2] medium to heavy-weight Corduroid, breathable Goretoid membrane, CE
    armour at knees, elbows and shoulders and lots of big zip-and-velcro
    pockets[3] in the main jacket and a couple in the trousers, zip-in thermal
    linings for both, jacket-to-trousers zip at the back and plenty of
    snug-em-down-tight velcro straps so they don't flap in the breeze
    [3] waterproof enough to have forgotten to close one of said pockets in a
    monsoon, hung the jacket up to dry and thrown it over my shoulder a few days
    later, to receive about a pint of water and dissolved Rizlas down my
    front...
     
    Dave H., Aug 20, 2007
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    Jérémy Guest

    wrote in 4ax.com:
    Quite true, except that sometimes it's not the fabric that leaks, but the
    seams (and this can happen with Goretex kit too). Forget about trying to
    waterproof a non-waterproof fabric, but if you suspect it may be the seams
    then seam-sealant would be worth a try. I have some made by (I think) Toko,
    but I'm fairly sure Nikwax make it too.
     
    Jérémy, Aug 20, 2007
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  10. trevrobwhite

    trevrobwhite Guest

    The fabric should be waterproof http://www.frank-thomas.co.uk/index.php?pge_id=11&product_id=171
    its only one small part that leaks that's why I was thinking about a
    treatment, wondering if something on them was wearing out. The jacket
    that comes in the set doesn't let anything through.

    Someone mentioned a seem treatment if the material is waterproof
    (which it is), then I suppose the seam could be at fault, what would
    be the best treatment in this case? I really only want to replace
    them as a last resort if possible.

    Thanks everyone for all the advice.
     
    trevrobwhite, Aug 20, 2007
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    Cane Guest

    Is your name Trevrob White or Trevor B White?
     
    Cane, Aug 20, 2007
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    MikeH Guest

    Isn't 'Trevor B White' the title of a less popular song from Chuck Berry?
     
    MikeH, Aug 20, 2007
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    Cane Guest

    *snort*
     
    Cane, Aug 20, 2007
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    trevrobwhite Guest

    My name is Trev (or Trevor) White, my middle name is Robert.
     
    trevrobwhite, Aug 20, 2007
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  15. Nikwax wash is pretty good. Get a tub of some kind
    and give the garmet(s) a while to soak it up. Works
    better than the spray on kind.

    In the past, when all else fails, I've used some waterproofing
    wax intended for waxed cotton garmets like Belstaff and Barbour
    mixed with silicon waterproofing and tent seam sealer along
    the stich lines. Usually does the trick but instantly attracts road
    grime, so it's best used on black garmets. Also compromises
    breathability so use sparingly, only on areas that really
    soak through. I always leave the back of the garmet unotuched.

    If the pants have rips in a waterproof liner, they're probably
    unsalvageable. Plan B would be to buy a $20 rainsuit at your
    local hardware store and suffer the pain of looking unfashionable
    when it rains.
     
    Rob Kleinschmidt, Aug 20, 2007
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    oasysco Guest

    I don't know much about waterproofing, but I'd give me eye teeth for
    something that bug proofs my bike :)-

    Greg
     
    oasysco, Aug 20, 2007
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    J. Clarke Guest

    Not necessarily depending on the design. There are Gore-Tex patch
    kits available. Most decent camping stores (EMS, REI, etc) will have
    them.
     
    J. Clarke, Aug 20, 2007
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    Doug Payne Guest

    Spray the whole thing with Crisco. They'll slide right off.
     
    Doug Payne, Aug 20, 2007
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    Pip Guest

    Buy a Harley.

    The pickup cab keeps most of the bugs off, and for the rest of the
    time, it is unlikely that a bug will stick very well when the bike is
    sitting sparkling on the driveway.
     
    Pip, Aug 21, 2007
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    Feckoff.

    <wanders over to ebay to look for pickups[1]>

    [1] Actually Ann suggested that it would be the right kind of vehicle
    for me if I ever made it to the US. I pointed out the her that it would
    be about as bad as TOG getting a bike trailer, in the "it's a complete
    pile of shit, about 300 miles away - no problem I'll just sling it on
    the trailer" sense.
     
    Timo Geusch, Aug 21, 2007
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