[QUOTE] I've got some of those and have had them for over 3 years. They're nice lightweight and waterproof.[/QUOTE] Ugh, 3 year old gloves. Mine get manking after around 12 months. [QUOTE] The stitching came apart on mine after about 12 months[/QUOTE] I buy sets of gloves, cheap from the BMF. I think I paid around £30 for 2 pairs of reasonable 'Lookwell' heavyweight gloves a few years back. Combined with my 2 pairs of summer gloves, they don't see a lot of use, but when they get stinky they'll get binned without regret. Paul.