Water-cooled leather jacket ?

where does one accually go to get a patent?

 

I use a 661 pressure suit, one of those armour things with all the bits in
place, wear a long sleeve t-shirt over the top, job done. cool and
protected.
pair drag jeans bike boots and away we go.

Mick Chester
Cootamundra

 

I found a copy on DVD going cheap in a shop last week and bought it because
I'd never seen the movie. I thought trading the white jacket for a patch
jacket but keeping the point duty gloves was a very nice touch.

Nev..
'03 ZX12R

 

At the motorcycle expo last week there was a fellow selling (among other
things) vests which you soak in water, wring out, then wear under your normal
jacket, they looked just like a zip out jacket liner. Specially designed so
he said with particular materials which will absorb and hold in the water
longer. Sounded like a good idea, until I asked for the price. $199!!!

Nev..
'03 ZX12R

 

Low gravity. There's no such thing as zero gravity (at least not outside of
the abstract).

 

Hey.. that's not for comfort.. That's for extra pain!

TB

 

The patent office.

Moike

 

But your idea is not patentable.

Once you have disclosed it in a public forum, it cannot be patented. By
anyone.

(assuming, of course that someone else hasn't already invented it and
patented it)

see http://www.ipaustralia.gov.au/patents/what_index.shtml for a run down.

Inventions and Innovations get patented.

If you build one a particular way, you can register the design.

Copyright protects the form of expression of an idea, but not the idea.
So you might have copyright in the words you have used to describe
you idea for an invention, but copyright does not cover the idea.

Moike

 

Nope.

Patents protect inventions or innovations.

Designs can be registered.

Trademark registration is separate.

You might invent an electrostatic razor, and separately redister a
particular design for one, and register "Zaprazor" as a trademark for
your business.

I might claim copyright in this particular piece of fiction.

All different things.

Moike

 

like the sony walkman and discman, the rest are portable

 

FuTAnT is of the opinion:

I was thinking more the cooling fins (which will have to be of some sort of
rigid material to ensure they stay separated) and the pump itself.
Alternately, I'd like to see your plans for a pump and powerplant made
entirely from water and soft PVC.

- Matt

 

Pair of soft PVC bladders, one under each buttock. Valves connecting
them. Every time you shift your bodyweight, it'll move fluid from
one side to the other, pumping it around. Use four chambers for
a double-sided pump, one to send fluid around the body and one
to send it out to some kind of organ for cooling ... hmmm.

(Getting enough compression to make a working heat pump would
be very difficult, mind you ... and take a lot of bouncing up
and down to make it work. Thermodynamics would be bound to
catch up with you eventually ...)

It's amazing the things you can make with meat. Although I read
somewhere that they're developing new artificial hearts based on
turbopumps, more efficient that way. Would be odd not having a
pulse at all, though ...

-----sharks

 

or you could always have a good read at
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/470878.html
and work out how to make your bike air conditioned


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A file that big?
It might be very useful.
But now it is gone

 

We water cool computers all the time.
It wouldn't be too hard to set up a jacket.
I saw some links where NASA did a helmet.
If you're serious then email me troy at i-central.com.au
We'll put something together.
How to power the pump will be the challenge.
Ideally you'd just plug it into a cigarette lighter.
I have a cigarette lighter to USB convertor.
How hard would it be to install a lighter ?
I'll start looking 4 a USB pump.
Apparently there's a small one in this :
http://www.boysstuff.co.uk/product.asp?id=11907&cid=
I have heaps of these things - so I'll rip one apart tonight.
Anyone know where to find a large one ?

 

Yep its all feasible. I recently saw water cooled suits for work in a brick
furnace. The furnace had been shut down for a couple of days but was still
300 degC+. The suits had their own water and air supply. Water tends to be
too heavy for a full suit so chilled air is more effective. The important
part is to get the wall thickness of the cooling tubes sufficiently narrow
to ensure good thermal conductivity and a good surface area of tubes. This
means a high flow resistance and hence a reasonable pressure (not
necessarily flow) pump. The most effective area for cooling is under the
arms and the top of the back since these are the most vascular

 

Wouldn't it be easier to use one of those pumps they use in cars for the
windscreen washers? They're only about the size of a D cell battery, plus
they're the same voltage as a cigarette lighter anyway.

I don't know much about bikes and biker's aparrel, but wouldn't it be much
less complicated to just use a different material which offerred the same
protection as a leather jacket but was breathable at the same time? I'm sure
that kind of thing exists.

My 2c anyhow...

- Andy

 

well ifi i get off my arse ill build one my self

out of some 5mm pvc tubing, sewn into a singo.

powered via a cigi socket, which is just 2 wires and a fuse connected to
your battery. pretty simple..

yes a wind screen washer motor, a buck at most wreckers. and have it dump
into some kind of container where the fluid can cool down.

IM sure it wont be purfect..

 

Windscreen motors aren't that good as they are only designed for short
duration use. Need something designed for constant use like PC pumps .

 

im sure you could find a small water pump that would be a lot cheeper than
something made for computers and usb..

 

You could also try a little water pump from one of those indoor water
features that are so popular these days.

You can usually pick one up at the warehouse for around $5.00.

Just a thought

Charmayne