Wanted - A US Perspective

They were always around during speedweek because of the Harley thing and
Uncle Dick, my Dad, George Sr. and Reiman were good friends and my Mom may
keep in touch with the Roeder's, but she's gettin' on, so I don't really
know how much. I see Jr. and sometimes Jess at Springfield, but nothing
other than to just to wish them well and say Hi...

 

Your post I was responding to was rmr posters, not race organizations and
sponsors. But since you've chosen to run away from your own statement, let's
address your other claims.

You're making Rossi a racial issue. Inaccurate, disturbing, and another
reinforcement of your bigotry.

Yamaha is "black"? Gauloises? If the "blacks" were looking out for their
own, how does Edwards fit in? If the "black" bias is as you say it is, then
other riders' "blackness" would give them an extra bonus that Edwards
couldn't have.

Golfers do influence entries and events via their sponsors. Look at the
demise of "The International" as an example. Some (but certainly not all or
even most) of the golfers also get start money, preferential tee times,
parking spots, personal gofers, hotel rooms, courtesy cars and/or on site
motorhomes, private jet travel, etc. The list goes on and on.

"Tiger also gets the very best clubs money can buy." Yamaha's budget and
resources and influence are greater than Hondas? Or Honda/Repsol? Is it the
"blacks" fault that the Roberts team has had difficulty financially?

Roberts Jr is on the same safety committee that Rossi is that can give input
for track design. If you have evidence of any other track manipulation that
Rossi has done outside the safety committee then cite it. Of the tracks
built or significantly modified since he entered the 500s (Turkey, Losail,
China, Assen) show his input and how it benefitted him.

Rossi as the recipient of officials bending the rules for him is no
different than in any other facet of life, be it sport, business, or family.
I would not be surprised to discover that tee box and pin placement at golf
tournaments is not random and is underhandedly beneficial to favored
players. Unfortunately in a situation where fair play is ideal, if there are
human officials there is inevitable subjectivity. Were all of your
promotions at work based completely on merit? What about your co-workers?
What about chicks that give out their phone numbers to cops to avoid
speeding tickets? I'm not condoning it, it is a distasteful part of life
(like bigotry). If you can think of a solution, let me know.

As it is, the MGP field is comprised of 19 riders representing 8 different
countries. Of those 19 riders, 4 are American, a number greater than the
riders from those "black" countries you frequently slag. Of those four
American riders, three are on the factory squads. Yeah Mark, you're right.
Those "blacks" are really doing their best to trash "whitey" every chance
they get.

Your repair skills are on par with your teaching "Motorcycle riding 101"
skills. Your revisionist skills, however, are quite remarkable.

 

So why didn't you stick to the discussion of overwhelming bias in this NG
instead of making a poor "repair" of the analogy?

I do not believe you. Among other denigrating names, you have referred to
Hispanics as "spics" and Asians as "yellow". You make homophobic attacks and
ad hominems. You have made clear your dislike of the "Euro-Med" system and
how they twist and manipulate, whether it is turning a blind eye toward
infractions or favoritism via the traditional feeder system and sponsor
leveraging. Now you take those same types that you dislike and view as
unfair players and label them as "black", just as you did in your paragraph
below. Do you think you are fooling people?

So how does it apply to Edwards?

Then you shouldn't have rebutted an analogy you didn't understand. The
parking preference is relevant as one within a set of examples showing that
there is favoritism beyond the sporting world of MGP. Why should I have to
explain that to you? Even discounting that particular example does not
nullify the point.

You claim that Woods (Rossi) has the best equipment money can buy. Support
that statement. Your claim of it not being that literal is you backing away
from your statement. Of course Rossi has gotten equipment better than the
average GP rider. You believe that Hayden should be (but isn't) getting at
least equal, if not better equipment than Pedrosa. I agree. But in either
situation, Hayden is also getting better equipment than the average GP
rider, so what's your point?

IIRC, others such as Melandri complained about the dip by turn 7. But your
comment "And Tiger gets input into the design of the courses, is the rough
too tall, are the greens too short, are the traps too deep?" implies that
Rossi is making wholesale changes to tracks everywhere.

That has to do with the cost and economic fragility of flagship motorsports
leagues and market value of riders. It's also why I don't like having the
best AMA riders spread out over 4 different classes. Same problem.

Not entirely true. Lesser talent can be masked somewhat by equipment that
makes it easier and more manageable to ride.

Hayden is unfortunate to have won in the season before a rule change having
to do with a reduction in engine displacement. I'm not going to argue with
you that his team has chosen to go with a design that is seems to be better
suited to a smaller individual (where's Koscinski when you need him?). But
that isn't really a deviation from the Honda philosophy of building from a
long term view of what will work best within the rules and fitting the rider
to those parameters. In other words, I think it's as much about Pedrosa (or
Stoner, et.al.) being in the right place at the right time as I think it's
about Hayden being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I think that if
Hayden was two years older and had entered GP two years sooner, there
wouldn't be these discussions about lack of respect.

How effective was he at taking points away from Hayden last year for his
teammate? Isn't that just as much a reason to be on a race team as being a
tester?


but is used by the Euros in this NG as both proof of the

How do you defend against "yet once again Colin is fast on Monday"?

What do you think his capabilities are at this point? Also, you are saying
KRJr's path is a path Hayden shoud be worried about getting drawn down.

And the last rides for a factory that's never been on

A position he has chosen to straddle.

Flip the coin around: which Americans are displaced in GP by undeserving
Euro-Meds?

Spies is at the top of my list (of everybody's list, I assume) of Americans
to go into GP, but he has yet to show he really wants to be there and make
the adjustment to cope with the global aspect of the series. You've gone on
plenty of times about the advantages the Euros have in terms of track
familiarization, among other things. If GP racing is Spies' eventual goal, I
don't think he's done himself a favor by re-signing with Suzuki for another
2 years in the US.

We all have varying degrees by which we involve ourselves in the sport.
Yours is obviously much greater than mine. That, however (especially in this
unmoderated forum), does not mean I am disallowed from adding comments as I
deem appropriate. YMMV.

 

An aside. Pop over to R.M.Dirt sometime. There are a number
of outspoken jesus wackos and the tone of any political discussion
is decidedly right wing and christian. Interesting contrast to R.M.R.


Go fast. Take chances.
Mike S.

 

Yeah, politics and religion two of the stickiest wickets ever, so let's let
'um go, in the meantime check this out..


A man was riding his Harley along a California beach when suddenly the sky
clouded above his head and, in a booming voice, the Lord said, "Because you
have TRIED to be faithful to me in all ways, I will grant you one wish."
The biker pulled over and said, "Build a bridge to Hawaii so I can
ride over anytime I want."
The Lord said, "Your request is materialistic, think of the enormous
challenges for that kind of undertaking; the supports required to reach
the bottom of the Pacific and the concrete and steel it would take! It will
nearly exhaust several natural resources. I can do it, but it is hard for me
to justify your desire for worldly things. Take a little more time and think
of something that could possibly help mankind."
The biker thought about it for a long time. Finally, he said, "Lord, I wish
that I and all men could understand our wives; I want to know how she feels
inside, what she's thinking when she gives me the silent treatment, why she
cries, what she means when she says nothing's wrong, and how I can make a
woman truly happy."





The Lord replied, "You want two or four lanes on that bridge?

 

{BUULLLshit snip}

Sorry to piss on your parade Reverend, but I'm fairly certain the Hayden's
are Catholic...

 

Heh, a KenMed, or a EuroTuck?

 

Heh, I know a few Prody's that would, most likely, violently disagree, but
you know what? I kinda' doubt anyone in RMR gives a shit, unless of course,
being catholic makes him faster, or for that matter, slower...

 

Obviously you've never been to California (where Mark lives), you twit...
They print ballots in over 30 languages. It's probably the most pluralistic
society on the planet.

 

And arguably, one of the most fuk'd up too... ;-)