VOTE GREENS TOADY!

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Peter Lucas, Aug 20, 2010.

  1. Peter Lucas

    Peter Lucas Guest

    You care about the environment, about climate change and our future
    right?????????

    Well then take a few meesley frikken minutes out of your ''precious''
    day to consider your preferences and which Government you would prefer
    the Greens to work with in the next Parliament.

    At this election you face a serious choice.

    Your preferences count, and make sure you exercise your vote
    carefully.

    A preference to Julia Gillard and Labor will ensure that you will get
    a government that believes in action on climate and will act to
    protect our natural environment.

    VOTE GREENS!

    --
    Peter Lucas
    Brisbane
    Australia
    X/No/Achieve; yes

    Help reign in capitalism"s rampage; Vote http://greens.org.au
    I support the Greens, and I hope you do too:
    http://greens.org.au
    www.qld.greens.org.au
    www.greenpeace.org.au
     
    Peter Lucas, Aug 20, 2010
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  2. What's TOADY????????????
     
    Chemo the Clown, Aug 20, 2010
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  3. Peter Lucas

    globular Guest

    The Greens oppose burning off to protect against bush fires don't they.
     
    globular, Aug 21, 2010
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  4. Peter Lucas

    JustBiggus Guest

    its sad you know that!
     
    JustBiggus, Aug 21, 2010
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  5. Peter Lucas

    Eddy Guest

    Then don't vote green. They are the dumb idiots that voted the ets
    down.

    I went to the trouble of filling in the senate ticket and placed the
    greens very last. I hope more do the same. Keep the greens out of the
    senate.
     
    Eddy, Aug 21, 2010
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  6. Peter Lucas

    Eddy Guest

    Yes they do and when a fire comes along it burns half the state which
    doe sfar more damage than any burning off does.

    They seem to think bush fires are un natural but hwta they fail to
    understand is nature often causes bush fires by itself with lightning
    strikes. Next they'll be against lightning which creates ozone.

    Lol.
     
    Eddy, Aug 21, 2010
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  7. Peter Lucas

    globular Guest

    It shouldn't be opposed anyway, trees near roads and homes are hazards.
     
    globular, Aug 23, 2010
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  8. Peter Lucas

    globular Guest

    The Greens are about the values of the inner city, and some of the
    smoking habits. People seem to forget that we are only in a small
    position of the geographical country.
     
    globular, Aug 23, 2010
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  9. Peter Lucas

    Lee Guest

    You know why they voted the ETS down?

    because they "care about the environment, about climate change
    and our future" and the ETS would have been basically useless.

    they only voted it down after the government refused to consider
    their amendments that would have made the ETS actually useful.
     
    Lee, Aug 23, 2010
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  10. Peter Lucas

    Lee Guest

    Nope.

    http://greens.org.au/policies/environment/environmental-principles

    29. develop and adequately fund fuel reduction burning strategies based on the latest research on scientific fire ecology, fire behavior information and indigenous fire management practices, in consultation with experts, custodians and land managers
    30. increase funding for bushfire research to include the effective use of fire, strategies for controlling arsonists, and best environmental and fire risk minimization in building practices.
     
    Lee, Aug 23, 2010
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  11. Peter Lucas

    Coach Guest

    Er, YEP. They are solely responsible for the 200 or more deaths in
    Victoria last year.
     
    Coach, Aug 23, 2010
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  12. Peter Lucas

    Lee Guest

    hmm.
    I'd have thought the

    record temperatures, high wind, drought, building codes, stay-or-go policy,
    lack of updates from the fire service, slow response, lightning strikes/arson
    etc etc would carry *at least* some responsibility for the deaths...

    but hey, that's your belief...
     
    Lee, Aug 23, 2010
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  13. Peter Lucas

    Coach Guest

    Of course ALL the things above contributed to the fires. But the
    reality is that if the Greens didn't block the back burning, none of
    these other issues you raised above would have been sufficient to
    cause 200 or more unnecessary deaths.
     
    Coach, Aug 23, 2010
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  14. Peter Lucas

    Lee Guest

    did they actually block it?
    got a cite?

    and of course the building codes, stay-or-go policy and timely info would
    each even on their own have saved at least some of those lives.
     
    Lee, Aug 23, 2010
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    J. Clarke Guest

    What the Greens want everybody to do of course.
     
    J. Clarke, Aug 24, 2010
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  16. Peter Lucas

    J. Clarke Guest

    <sarcasm>Which is why the entire US East Coast burns to the ground every
    year.</sarcasm>
     
    J. Clarke, Aug 24, 2010
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  17. Peter Lucas

    BT Humble Guest

    Is it still illegal to publicly encourage others to vote informal?

    I like the idea of registering the "Informal Party" so that I can then put
    up advertising exhorting people to "Vote X Informal!"


    BTH
     
    BT Humble, Aug 26, 2010
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  18. An informal vote is perfectly valid.

    If you go back to the days of the dams debate in Tasmania in the 80s
    the newly formed Greens party were asking people to just write NO DAMS
    across the paper.

    The only law is that if you are enrolled (which I am not) is that you
    turn up at a polling station, get your name registered and put the
    paper in the box. What you write on that paper is up to you.
     
    Kevin Gleeson, Aug 26, 2010
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  19. In aus.motorcycles on Thu, 26 Aug 2010 12:12:17 +1000
    It is my recollection that they said "vote AND write "No Dams".

    And that a large number (in fact most) of No Dams votes were valid,
    and not informal.

    An informal vote is not a valid vote by definition.

    It might be a legal vote in that you turned up, got ticked, and put a
    ballot paper in the box, it is not valid.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Aug 26, 2010
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  20. Peter Lucas

    BT Humble Guest

    The story I remember from a few years back was of a bloke getting some
    gaol time for the act of *encouraging others* to vote informal.

    Casting an informal ballot is perfectly legal, but the implication was
    that going out on a campaign to exhort other people to vote informal was
    not.


    BTH
     
    BT Humble, Aug 26, 2010
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