VFR800-v-tec?

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by CrazyCam, Jul 9, 2006.

  1. CrazyCam

    Moike Guest

    Subtle?

    Moike
     
    Moike, Jul 12, 2006
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  2. CrazyCam

    Nev.. Guest

    I got the impression from the article I read that the clutch-leverless
    system was standard on the FJR now and they would not be releasing a
    model with a conventional setup.

    Nev..
    '04 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Jul 12, 2006
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    Johno Guest

    GB... Just exactely what are you trying to say about the mighty Honda
    range ? ;p
    Johno

    Beer mate?
     
    Johno, Jul 12, 2006
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    J5 Guest

    i was wrong , couldnt be related or it would have went

    fucking shitbox trumpies , wouldnt piss on em , wouldnt
    have one if you gave it to me , pieces of shit
     
    J5, Jul 12, 2006
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    JL Guest

    Yeah true, semi auto like the paddle shift cars, different to the postie
    bike's centrifugal.
    Probably a good one to buy recently second hand going by Tim's experience
    I dunno, the semi auto thing would be nice in stop start traffic - when
    it's choked and the lanes are too narrow to split then it would be nice,
    fairly limited usage though :)

    JL
     
    JL, Jul 12, 2006
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    CrazyCam Guest

    So the answer is yes.... then, in the spirit of Harsh Week, I fart in
    your general direction.

    I admit to having a reluctance to own a Triumph which is probably based
    on completely illogical memories of a Triumph from a long time back.

    OTOH, so long as I am reasonably polite about it and don't heap shit on
    others who don't agree with me, then I am as entitled to my prejudicies
    as anyone else.

    regards,
    CrazyCam
     
    CrazyCam, Jul 12, 2006
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  7. CrazyCam

    CrazyCam Guest

    JL wrote:

    Yup.

    The more I think about it, the more sense I see in buying second hand.

    Doesn't help with the big Yamaha since it has only just hit the market,
    but could be a valid option for the likes of the VFR.

    BTW, I did get a decent test ride of the 06 VFR today.

    Sydney City Motorcycles gave me a brand new one, 34 ks on clock.

    I was very impressed.

    The heat business is still there, and could be a problem to some folk.
    Even in today's cool, second set of lights I stopped at, temp hit 104
    and the fan(s) cut in, starting the roasting process on me.

    Handling, comfort, brakes were all as I remembered them from the last
    one. Simply excellent.

    Engine sounded odd. No nice whine, but, depending on revs some kind of
    strange farting/popping, then getting into a reasonable rasping noise.
    I could live with it.

    Coming from a naked Hornet, it was hard to judge some of the
    performance, 'cos without the wind feedback, going from 60 to 80 tended
    to be actually going to 95 or 100... it was effortless and smooth, and a
    wee bit more than I expected.

    The transition from 2-valve to 4-valve operation was, to me, fairly
    smooth and not something that would worry me. It did feel like there was
    a reasonably sharp increase in power, but not enough to cause any problems.

    It seems to me that, if you wanted to potter about, without risking a
    speeding ticket, you could do that comfortably at fairly low revs in
    2-valve mode...presumeably without using too much petrol.

    Turning up the wick to 4-valve, it has what I'd consider adequate power.
    That is, more than enough for any reasonable requirement of mine. Sure,
    it isn't a sports bike anymore, but, properly steered it would still be
    pretty quick.

    The only slight disappointment to me was that it is still quite a heavy
    motorcycle. I had somehow expected it to have shed some weight in the
    years since I last rode one.

    Back then, I had built up muscles from the K100RS, and didn't think the
    VFR was terribly heavy. Now, with the Hornet being my heaviest bike, the
    VFR seemed like it weighed a ton when I wanted to roll it back.

    All in all, I am very tempted. 2006 models are red (well maroon) and
    black, while the 2005 ones available are a nice blue. Full price on 2006
    is 17 and a half, with the 2005 at 15 and a half.

    <sigh> Nice bike, but 15.5 is a big chunk of money.

    regards,
    CrazyCam
     
    CrazyCam, Jul 12, 2006
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  8. Not so. Was at a rally a few weekends ago, and ran into an old mate who
    had just purchased the 2006 model - got all the other changes, but not
    the clutchless transmission. Not sure whether the higher ratio rear
    drive was also optional or extra.

    ---
    Cheers

    PeterC [aka MildThing]
    Before an accident, most city drivers say "****!", whereas most country drivers
    say "Hang on to this stubby, mate, while I show you some awesome driving"
    '81 Yamaha Virago (XV) 750H (work in progress)
    '01 Yamaha FJR1300

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    Peter Cremasco, Jul 12, 2006
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    With no link as to what he's talking about or to whom he's responding!
     
    Knobdoodle, Jul 12, 2006
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    It just occurred to me today but two aus.moto people died riding VFR800s
    (Boky and Ben) and another on a VFR750 (Triggers).
    That's not a good record.
     
    Knobdoodle, Jul 12, 2006
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    IK Guest

    Ben was on a VTR1000F...
     
    IK, Jul 12, 2006
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    IK Guest

    Stuck it under the front of a car some years earlier, if I remember the
    story he drunkenly slurred on the balcony of a chalet in Jindabyne...
     
    IK, Jul 12, 2006
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    Was he?
    Ooops sorry. Had he sold the VFR?
     
    Knobdoodle, Jul 12, 2006
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    Well [thinks desperately] FUGGIN HONDAS then!
     
    Knobdoodle, Jul 12, 2006
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    Skuz Guest

    I mean it just runs cleaner/greener. I don't think 2 or 4 valves changes
    the economy any more the increase in revs.
    110 in top is about 4.5k rpm, so over 7k rpm is not licence friendly.
    No problem.
     
    Skuz, Jul 12, 2006
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    Skuz Guest

    Those are the two Honda systems used on cars.

    The motorcycle version doesn't alter timing or lift. Honda call it Hyper
    VTEC and it is simply a solenoid that kicks in at about 7k rpm. The
    solenoid allows oil pressure to engage a pin which locks the extra valves
    into operation. The valve timing and lift stay the same. A few other
    things happen like flaps on the airbox open to pressurise the airbox ready
    for two additional valves suddenly kicking in and fuelling changes, but
    thats about it.

    I've been told the car version with variable timing would be too bulky on a
    bike?

    Skuz
    '02 VFR800
     
    Skuz, Jul 12, 2006
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    Johno Guest

    Bronnie knocked the shit out of a wombat on her vfr750.... you trying
    to tell us something Clem?

    Johno <vfr800>

    Beer mate?
     
    Johno, Jul 13, 2006
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    IK Guest

    Well, you can always learn to balance throttle butterflies...
     
    IK, Jul 13, 2006
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    IK Guest

    Honda claim the dry weight of the CB1300S at 230kg. VFR, 213kg. Note
    that Cam was, earlier, grumbling about the weight of the VFR.
     
    IK, Jul 13, 2006
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    J5 Guest

    of course you would

    fool injection requires throttle sync just like carbs :)

    see learn something new everyday
     
    J5, Jul 13, 2006
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