VFR800-v-tec?

IK wrote:

Aye.

I enjoyed my 750 turbo Kwaka, and, given the advances in technology,
would be very interested in a turbo bike if anyone made one currently.

regards,
CrazyCam

 

Depends.

What size MZ?

regards,
CrazyCam

 

Richard wrote:

For me to fit on one of them, I'd need to remove the fairing, fit decent
handlebars, then I'd have something that would be awfully like a Hornet
600, which I already have. ;-)

Somehow I feel my BMW owning days are over.

Since they started having more model changes than the japs, I've kinda
lost interest in Bimmers.

regards,
CrazyCam

 

I think it really depends on what you're after.

We've got the Sprint, and it's awesome for what we do, which is no
commuting, and a lot of two-up touring. Trips up to see the folks, to
the beach, stuff like that. Taking it up to Cairns later in the year.
Lately it's been being used for all the odd jobs around town on a
Saturday, and it handles that absolutly beautifully.

However, friends of ours have just bought a brand new '05 VFR. Got it
for $15.5 on road. They've come from an old VFR750, and use it pretty
much exclusively for commuting, as well as the occasional long ride.

They tried the Sprint, even borrowed ours for a while, but in the end
liked the smaller size of the VFR (plus, they're VFR people, having had
the old one for 7yrs, or something silly). With the current deals on
the 05 VFRs, they just couldn't go past it. They had the option of the
06 model, but felt that the extra ~$2k-ish wasn't worth the minimal
spec changes. They certainly didn't think the engine in the 05 to be
absolute poo, nor did they think that the 06 was sufficiently better to
warrant the extra dough.

I've not ridden their VFR yet, seeing as it's only 2 weeks old, and
they're not letting it out of their sight. My theory is that if the
VTEC was as horrible as everyone whose never ridden one says it is,
then they wouldn't be selling so many of them, especially after 4
years. Sure, it may be redundant, and a bit of a gimmick, but I doubt
it's amazingly awful. But that's just my expert opinion, based (in true
internet style) on never having actually ridden one.

Thanks!
Matto
05 Sprint ST

 

It's not just insurance companies - the NSW RTA doesn't either - have a
look at the misguided list of cars P Platers aren't allowed to drive as
they've banned them from anything with a turbo or blower.
For example:
It's illegal for a P plater to drive a Merc C180 which has a 1.8
supercharged which would struggle to pull the skin off custard with it's
piddly 105Kw in a hefty body. Whereas its perfectly legal for the same P
plater to drive the same car with the 3.5L 200Kw engine in it.

Gotta love the bureaucrats !

JL

 

Pretty much. On the VFR a solenoid changes it from 2 valve operation to
4 valve at a certain rpm. Under the rpm two of the valves just stay closed.

JL

 

In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 11 Jul 2006 07:46:42 +1000

You need a Guzzi you do! See if you can get a test ride on a Breva,
I'm told that the screen works well. NOt quite full fairing of
course, but not bad.

Or wait around a bit for a Norge....

Zebee

 

Just to try and clear up some of the misinformation on VTEC.

On the cars, (not sure what they did on the bikes)

there is VTEC and there is VTEC-e (although VTEC-e is now referred to
as VTEC while VTEC is referred to as VTEC-r. Got that?)
The e used to be for economy, while the r was race(?)

VTEC (in both forms) is variable timing and lift. The variable timing
is achieved by rotation of the cam. The variable lift is achieved by
engaging an extra rocker that is following the 'power' cam, at a certain
RPM. The power cam allows longer duration and higher lift on two of the
valves, allowing better charging of the cylinder at higher RMP. (the
non-power cam is usually designed to give better swirl at lower RPM and
better torque.) I believe that all valves are in operation all the
time, but two valves change their lift and duration when the VTEC kicks
in.

The VTEC (e) only affects the inlet side.

The VTEC-r has the VTEC system on both inlet and outlet. This allows
for better exhaust scavenging at higher RPM with better overlap between
the inlet and exhaust valve opening.

The VTEC-r engines are tuned with top-end power in mind. They generally
make around 100hp per litre. (B16A2 makes 160hp from 1.6 litres)
The low RPM cams are tuned to give the engine more acceptable torque for
around town operation. (CRX, Civic VTiR, Integra VTiR, Prelude VTir,
Civic Type-R, Integra Type-R, NSX, Accord Type-R)

The VTEC-e engines are tuned to give 'ok' power at the top end (nothing
earth shattering) with the low RPM operation tuned to give better torque
and economy than you would otherwise get on an engine of the same
capacity. (the other 'VTEC' models, badged VTi in the early days)

I don't know which system (if either) they use on the bikes.

Rob.

 

snip tech stuff

so how on earth does that clear it up?

ck

 

Doh. s/right/left/

I'll crawl back under my rock now.

 

Relax, Zebee. I have promised that when I get really old and silly
I'll get (or build) a Guzzi with the I-convert.

But I haven't reached that stage yet. (My opinion!)

regards,
CrazyCam

 

Did you know they've released the FJR1300 in automatic now ?

It's fully faired too...

JL

 

prob not noticeably less

but its harder to make emission friendly across the whole range and
performance etc

no not at all , easy to lose the licence

could cost a lot less if you shop at the right places and of course change
your own oil

easy enough to throw the O2 sensors and go closed loop with a PC and have a
performance increase

are you the brother of Biggus ?

 

as long as you dont want parts in a hurry

that too

if you can find one of the last V11's they are going at $16500 on the road

bellagio or some other stupid name

 

If they are selling so many why do they need to clear '05 stock well into
2006

 

"J5" wrote

What do you need parts for?
193,000 kms, 80,000 of that 'touring' between Perth and PI, and not
ever been stuck for any parts.

Theo

 

No.

Was that some kind of subtle picking on me?

regards,
CrazyCam

 

JL wrote:

No, I didn't know that.

Yup. It was another, like the VFR, that I rode and liked, but, at the
time was too hot.

regards,
CrazyCam

 

JL wrote:

OK, it's an electronic clutch system...not a true auto.

Interesting, but, at 24 grand....<shrug>

Maybe, when Yamaha have unsold stock, and prices get more sensible, then
it might be a good thing.

In a lot of ways, tho, it's solving a problem which isn't much of a problem.

regards,
CrazyCam

 

21 Grand here - but I think that's for the standard model. Not sure I'd
be interested in clutchless, nor button-push gear shifting. And
definitely not interested in the higher ratio final-drive.

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Cheers

PeterC [aka MildThing]
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say "Hang on to this stubby, mate, while I show you some awesome driving"
'81 Yamaha Virago (XV) 750H (work in progress)
'01 Yamaha FJR1300

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