VFR Servicing

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by SteveH, Jun 26, 2005.

  1. SteveH

    SteveH Guest

    Story so far:

    Rear wheel off. Easy.
    Remove pad-pin plug. Easy.
    Remove pad-pin. ****. Won't move.
    Soak in WD40 and come back to it later.

    Spend 1/2 hour removing plastic. Fiddly, but not too bad.
    Drain oil.
    Remove petrol tank. Hmmm. Doesn't move very far.
    Fiddle around, balancing tank at odd angles to remove airbox cover and
    replace air filter.
    Replace tank.

    Oil finished draining. Move onto oil filter.
    Nut snaps off on the removal tool that came with the filter.
    Trawl through garage to find alternative tool.
    Spins round on filter doing nothing. Bugger.

    Right - what now?

    I'm off to Motorworld to get a chain type filter remover, but the
    fucking pad pin is still stuck solid.

    Any ideas?
     
    SteveH, Jun 26, 2005
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  2. In uk.rec.motorcycles, SteveH amazed us all with this pearl of wisdom:
    Get an allen key wiv an 'andle. They usually come in a set and was the
    only way[1] I got mine out of a stuck caliper
    Stick a screwdriver through it to remove, wrap a few elastic band round
    the new one to do up. If you can't get your hands behind the exhausts, I
    can heartily recommend one if the chain type of doer uppers.
    Try the multi-tool allen key thing with a handle or the method in my
    footnote below. It worked for me but YMMV.

    [1] Another time was using an adjustable wrench as a lever on an allen
    key.
     
    Whinging Courier, Jun 26, 2005
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  3. SteveH

    SteveH Guest

    Chain filter remover is just chewing through the filter casing.

    ****. ****. ****.
    Been trying to tap it through - but it won't shift.

    Can't find mole grips. Looks like I'll have to go out again.
     
    SteveH, Jun 26, 2005
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  4. SteveH

    SteveH Guest

    Bought the only one they had. It doesn't work, just chewing up the
    fucking filter case. This is a bad thing.
    I've soaked in WD40 and hit the pokey-out end with a hammer. Lots.

    Still won't shift.
     
    SteveH, Jun 26, 2005
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  5. If the filter isn't too badly recessed, hammer a screwdriver right
    through it and twist that. The filter canister is being junked anyway.

    This is where you get a blowtorch and use heat on it.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 26, 2005
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  6. SteveH

    Steve Parry Guest

    SteveH fumbled, fiddled and fingered:
    "If" it's the same size filter as K series beemers with nut flats at the
    top then there's a nice remover available that just attaches to a socket
    drive

    http://tinyurl.com/7vlru

    Motobins or Motorworks will have them in stock.

    Failing that a strap type rather than a chain type maybe better?

    <snip>

    --
    Steve Parry
    K100RS SE & F650
    and a 520i SE Touring for comfort

    (not forgetting the SK90PY)

    http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk
     
    Steve Parry, Jun 26, 2005
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  7. SteveH

    Krusty Guest

    Stab it with a screwdriver, or stick a hose clamp on it & hit that with
    yer hammer & a drift.
    Yes - take them all out every autumn & plaster them with copper grease.
    Bit late for that now I s'pose...
     
    Krusty, Jun 26, 2005
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  8. SteveH

    SteveH Guest

    That's the type that broke the minute I applied pressure.

    I had a spare one, but it's spinning on the casing doing nothing.

    I'm bleeding profusely from a nice deep cut from the torn metal now.

    And it's still stuck solidly.
     
    SteveH, Jun 26, 2005
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  9. Get a man in. <g>

    Or get a FOAD pair of grips, grip the mangled canister as hard as
    possibly, and turn.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 26, 2005
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  10. SteveH

    Steve Parry Guest

    SteveH fumbled, fiddled and fingered:
    I've used mine for oooo 20 years on various K100RS's and never had a
    problem.
    Owww .... can you get a small chisel to the thicker base of it and tap
    at it "'wiv 'an hammer"? (obviously *GREAT* care must be exercised here
    not to bork the mating surface)
    Sounds like it was tightened by some sort of mechanical idiot? They only
    need "nipping" up as such.

    --
    Steve Parry
    K100RS SE & F650
    and a 520i SE Touring for comfort

    (not forgetting the SK90PY)

    http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk
     
    Steve Parry, Jun 26, 2005
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  11. SteveH

    SteveH Guest

    Tried a different kind of chain, and it's sorted.

    Now it's just sorting the pad retaining pin.

    <checks manual again>

    Oh, it's threaded. Ooops.
     
    SteveH, Jun 26, 2005
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  12. SteveH? ;-)
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 26, 2005
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  13. SteveH

    Krusty Guest

    LMAO you fucking numpty. Are you *sure* you should be doing things to
    brakes...
     
    Krusty, Jun 26, 2005
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  14. SteveH

    SteveH Guest

    Couldn't see an allen head until I had a moment of inspiration and tried
    a selection of allen keys in it.

    Then re-checked the Honda workshop manual that just says 'remove pad
    retaining pin' but forgets to tell you how to do it.

    After removing the threaded plug I wasn't expecting the pin to be
    threaded as well.

    And after all that.... the fucking MOT numpty was wrong about the pads,
    too. I didn't think to actually check them myself, but I reckon they're
    only half worn.

    FFS!
     
    SteveH, Jun 26, 2005
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  15. SteveH

    SteveH Guest

    The problem was using the wrong tools as it happens.

    Chain wrench with a 1/2" drive on it did the trick within seconds.
     
    SteveH, Jun 26, 2005
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  16. <Nods wisely>
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 26, 2005
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  17. SteveH

    Timo Geusch Guest

    Halfrauds does a "pipe wrench" type filter clamp - works perfectly well even
    on reluctant filters for me.

    I guess you'll have to go out again...
     
    Timo Geusch, Jun 26, 2005
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  18. SteveH

    muddycat Guest

    A largish screwdriver driven through the filter works too.
    --
    Mike

    SV650
    UKRMMA#22
    Skype: muddycat
     
    muddycat, Jun 26, 2005
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  19. SteveH

    SteveH Guest

    Heh.

    Bought one of them. Didn't work - but it'll be handy when I do the
    Panzerwagon later in the week.

    I've spent around 25 quid on tools to remove this bloody filter, then I
    found my old chain type jobbie in the garage. Grrr!

    Brakes now done, oil refilled. Running sweet.

    Suppose I should clean the underside of the tail and inside the fairing
    whilst it's all in bits.
     
    SteveH, Jun 26, 2005
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  20. SteveH

    Timo Geusch Guest

    That's surprising...
    They all do that, sir.
     
    Timo Geusch, Jun 26, 2005
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