Vegetable Oil

Genuine question.

Can some wise person let me know why we aren't all using Veg oil in our
diesel engines. I was reading that it actually produces a zero amount of CO2
because the amount it gives out is negated by the amount 'locked in' by the
oil producing plants when they grow.

I know it takes a bit more fiddling to stop it solidifying but then again
things like electric/petrol hybrids are pretty fiddly too. I seem to recall
that diesel's originally ran on coconut oil or something but I might have
made that up. It would seem to be a solution to the whole pissing around in
the Middle East to get oil thing too.

Is it because we couldn't harvest enough oil? Petrol company conspiracy?
Smells of chips?

 

Not if you pay duty, 27p a litre.

 

it's tax evasion if you do it yourself.

Seriously.

However, they're going to tax it and make it legal:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3569379.stm

 

yeah, but the gubmint wouldn't trust people to pay it themselves,
would they?

 

the diesel engine was originally /designed/ to run on peanut oil.

 

Are you still planning to convert your van?

 

They do, you just fill in a form every month or quarter, saying how much
you've used in your vehicle (or made if you turn the veggie oil into bio
diesel) and pay the tax, then your all legal and all that,

if using new veggie oil it works out at something like 50p a litre, waste
veggie oil is a lot cheaper.. but you do have to process it a little more.

 

ah - I didn't know that.

Interesting.

Well, it would be if I owned any diesel vehicles...

 

flash@work wrote in

A 38 tonner carrying nothing but catering size drums of vegetable oil was
nicked from the M4 services at Magor. The empty lorry was dumped just a few
miles down the road at Pontypool. This was just after the news report that
drivers in Swansea were running their vehicles on chip fat from Asda.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,878122,00.html

 

I'm not intending to.

Hang on, don't *you* own a diesel vehicle?

 

Is Heather's knee up to strenuous exercise yet?

 

Keep an eye out for a re-run of the classic Documentary, "Coconut
Revolution".... an absolutely *amazing* story of the people of the
island of Bougainville, who being royaly screwed over by their
government, the Australians and Rio Tinto Zinc, fought back and booted
them off the island. All powered by coconut oil. They would nick the
vehicles and generators of RTZ, and power them with coconut oil...then
use them to drive back and shoot the military guarding the mines
They PNG army then blockaded the island, and were a little nonplussed
when they found that just because they didnt have any petroleum products
on the island, it didnt stop them from generating electricity and
driving round....

In fact, Ive found that you can buy a copy here...

http://www.cultureshop.org/details.php?code=COCOREV

The guy that leads the Bougainville troops is a mental charcter with a
dodgy arm, a strong beleif in god and no fear whatsoever.....

This doco blew me away. A must see IMHO...

 

Sit her on the chair, you fool.

 

http://www.biodieselfillingstations.co.uk/approvals.htm

 

Still planning, was about to do it untill a little yellow bike came along

then the money i had for the solenoids and extra fuel filters etc went on
buying the bike.. still still, so far i've spent about 30 quid extra on this
bike, wheelbearings, battery, new handlebars and grips, so at least it's a
lot cheaper than the iveco for parts,

 

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "John Jordan"

Not worth taking the risk with a new vehicle. The main problem with
using veg oil is the need to run a dual fuel system and changeover
valves and to make sure the vegoil is up to temp before using it.

Personally, I wouldn't use it on a modern common rail engine (if that's
what it is); you really need a shiteoldcar to experiment with.

If anything goes wrong under warranty, Renault will find the vegoil in
the pump and knock your claim back.

--

Dave

GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10

 

I heard that there simply wouldn't be enough agricultural land in the
UK to grow the necessary crops, though I'm not sure if that's for
current diesel owners only or if everybody on this island ran a diesel
car.