Valve Clearances

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by James Mayfield, Jun 29, 2004.

  1. Obviously I have lived a very sheltered motorcycle maintenance childhood.

    With the GPX250, to adjust the valve clearances, I do the following.....
    Remove the rocker cover.
    Remove the alternator cover.
    Rotate the crank shaft appropriately.
    Measure the valve clearances.
    If they need adjusting, I then.....
    Loosen the locknut with a quality socket.
    Ajdust the clearance with a screw driver
    Tighten the locknut back up.
    Time to accurately do one valve: 5 minutes.
    Time to accurately do all 8 valves: 40 minutes.

    I thought that was pretty good. Then I got the ZX10 and I thought I had died
    and gone to heaven. The process is the same for measuring, but to adjust....
    Push rocker to the side along slide shaft.
    Remove old shim.
    Fit new shim.
    Time to accurately do one valve: 2 minutes.
    Time to accurately do all 16 valves: 32 minutes.

    Sooooooooooo simple. They should all be that way.

    Then I was going to do the clearances on a friends ZZR600 on the weekend.
    Again, the same process to measure, but to adjust......
    REMOVE THE CAM CHAIN TENSIONER
    REMOVE THE CAM CHAIN GUIDES
    REMOVE THE F**KING CAMS
    Remove old shim.
    Fit new shim.
    REPLACE ALL THE ABOVE CRAP
    Time to accurately do one valve: At a guess, about an hour.
    Time to accurately do all 16 valves: At a guess, about an hour and a half.

    BUGGER THAT SHIT OFF!!!

    Then I find out that way is the norm!!!

    Ok, so what are the reasons for this?

    I can think of a few:
    1: It reduces weight. Less stuff in there, means less kilos.
    2: It reduces the number of moving parts, in theory, increasing
    reliability. (Not that I've ever heard of anyone losing a rocker with the
    set up of the ZX10.
    3: It takes up less space. On some engines, this may be a
    consideration. It could _maybe_ be on the ZZR600 engine.

    Is there anything obvious and major that I'm missing as a reason for this?

    Personally, I think I'll stick with engines that are nice and easy to work
    on, like the ZX10, thankyou very much.
     
    James Mayfield, Jun 29, 2004
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  2. James Mayfield

    Gary Woodman Guest

    How long does it take when you realise you've mis-timed the cams, and it
    won't start (or Mr Piston kisses Ms Valve)?
    Meal ticket for the dealer/mechanic. Most owners wouldn't know where to
    find the bike's toolkit (as if that would help).
    Ditto :)


    Gary

    --
    Wealth without Work
    Pleasure without Conscience
    Science without Humanity
    Knowledge without Character
    Politics without Principle
    Commerce without Morality
    Worship without Sacrifice

    The Seven Deadly Sins of M.K. Gandhi
     
    Gary Woodman, Jun 29, 2004
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  3. How long does it take when you realise you've mis-timed the cams,

    Did that on the GPX when I rebuilt the engine. Only by 1 tooth, but boy did
    it ever make a difference to performance!!!
    True. I had missed that one.
     
    James Mayfield, Jun 29, 2004
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    Moike Guest

    Cheaper to build.

    Moike

    locknut person.
     
    Moike, Jun 29, 2004
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  5. *Cue "My bike has hydraulic tappets" bragging from assorted wankers*


    Postman Pat
    CB Sevenfiddy (it's got hydraulic tappets you know...)
     
    Pat Heslewood, Jun 29, 2004
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  6. I've heard they only work one way though!

    Hammo
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Jun 29, 2004
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  7. Yeah, thats why they don't use them on desmo valves...

    big
     
    Iain Chalmers, Jun 29, 2004
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