V twins

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by ogden, Nov 13, 2006.

  1. ogden

    ogden Guest

    If there's not much else in it, then a "little" money (read: up to 8k)
    can make all the difference.
     
    ogden, Nov 14, 2006
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    Hog Guest

    Ah well I was thinking about new prices. The 998 holds it's price
    incredibly well. A pre-disastered Aprilia would be much mre affordable,
    if that's an issue.
     
    Hog, Nov 14, 2006
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    darsy Guest

    the only reason I chose 2002, is that you can't *buy* a new 998, YTC.
     
    darsy, Nov 14, 2006
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  4. ogden

    Hog Guest

    Well there is stock around still I believe but you have a point!
     
    Hog, Nov 14, 2006
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  5. ogden

    Hog Guest

    Have you tried one? seriously
     
    Hog, Nov 14, 2006
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  6. ogden

    Hog Guest

    That would require rather a lot of work. If someone was prepared to line
    up all four at Donnington for our personal review, well I'm up for it
     
    Hog, Nov 14, 2006
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    SD Guest

    Honda manages to do this with just about every engine configuration.[/QUOTE]

    Except their sixes.
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    SD, Nov 14, 2006
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  8. Except their sixes.[/QUOTE]

    Granted. My neighbour has a Valkyrie, and I really lust after it.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Nov 14, 2006
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  9. ogden

    Pip Luscher Guest

    They're good bikes in their own right.

    Though Ducatis may be pretty reliable these days, I've never bought
    one because there's always that nagging doubt.

    Sportier large Ducatis are expensive to buy, even secondhand.

    Ducati spares are pricey. To be fair, you should see the price of
    Aprilia spares and my early impression that their availability is piss
    poor may well be confirmed soon.
     
    Pip Luscher, Nov 14, 2006
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  10. ogden

    Pip Luscher Guest

    I might, all else being equal.
     
    Pip Luscher, Nov 14, 2006
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    Hog Guest

    **** off wi your technical analysis you ****
     
    Hog, Nov 14, 2006
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  12. ogden

    Pete Fisher Guest

    Or an under-slung damper Buell style and a 72 v angle.

    A Voxan is still about 50mm longer wheelbase than an RSV though.

    Never mind that though see this:
    http://www.voxan.com/voxan/actualites.asp#

    Wahooo!

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    Pete Fisher, Nov 14, 2006
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  13. Honda managed the same solution, very elegantly, and without the use of
    a balance shaft, by using offset crankpins. Think VT500, Revere, etc.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Nov 15, 2006
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    My 748 ate it's clutch, fucked up something in the rear wheel (dunno
    what it was, warranty sorted it), spat it's alternator off the crank
    causing a grands worth of damage and suffered numerous other small
    problems.

    I'll stick to unreliable Jap bikes tvm.

    It was always serviced at either Baines Racing or an official Ducati
    dealer and Ducati never tried to blame the full race system, the
    modified airbox or the different chip for any of the snags.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Nov 15, 2006
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  15. ogden

    Pip Luscher Guest

    Was there a centre journal in VTs et al? If not then IWHT that there
    might be crank flex issues that would probably be OK on a low-powered
    bike but wouldn't stand up to a litre supersports power. Remember
    those British parallel twins with the centre flywheel?

    I personally think the Honda approach defeats the elegant simplicity
    of a V-twin layout.
     
    Pip Luscher, Nov 15, 2006
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  16. ogden

    Pip Luscher Guest

    I still don't know why they persisted with the rotary damper on the TL
    when the likes of Maxton & Ohlins can make linear ones that fit the
    available space.

    To be fair to the TL rotary it's never been such a problem that I felt
    compelled to replace it, though I suspect that I could get away with a
    lot less steering damping on bumpy B-roads if I did.
     
    Pip Luscher, Nov 15, 2006
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  17. ogden

    Pete Fisher Guest

    In communiqué <>, Pip Luscher
    The ones with a centre main bearing (AMC) may not have flexed but they
    vibrated in a way that even a Harley owner would find amazing.

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    platypus Guest

    Rocking couple. Vibration in an additional plane. Almost as bad as the BMW
    boxer with forked conrods on a single crankpin that TOG thought up.
     
    platypus, Nov 15, 2006
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    zymurgy Guest

    White man speaks with forked conrod ..

    HTH

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, Nov 16, 2006
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  20. ogden

    Pip Luscher Guest

    I can imagine. I'd guess that that was a 360 deg. crank, though?
     
    Pip Luscher, Nov 16, 2006
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