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125's corner faster and race close. They are as fast as 500's used to be.
Real men ride 125's, not farm tractor bikes. ;-)

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" #2, Closed paddocks may be necessary in Europe but I don't think they'll
fly too long
here."
It would appear no one even wanted to float that one.(at inception anyway)
http://amasuperbike.com/2004/Aug/040820mm.htm

If I remember correctly, the 2nd weekend of July is, pretty much, an AMA
weekend, isn't it? The next obvious question is, will there be any "guest's"
invited, or will we all just have to compare times???? Do Mat, Jake,
Miguel,Eric, Ben or whoever get to do a guest shot? I can hear Julian now,
no way that'll ever happen. Hmm, didn't you say that about open pits too? I
can't remember who professed that line, anyway, I hope L/S isn't involved in
some sort of bait and switch type thing just to pump up advance sales. We'll
see....
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Really? Such as? If national championships have been run concurrently at
any GP and WSB meetings they've been invisible. Just like the AMA the
AMA at Laguna to anyone outside the USA.

 

The only really bad crash I can remember there was the Yanagawa-Chandler
one. I don't think either of them hit a barrier. It looks like the tree
ought to be in the way but I don't think anyone's ever hit it. More
scary are the high speed kinks on the run up to the corkscrew and the
left hand kink of turn 1. These all look on TV as though there are
barriers right on the side of the track. But again, I'm not sure
anyone's ever fallen badly at either.

The problem is that Tamada's crash this year and Kato last year has
everyone spooked. People falling off is good for the show. But people
falling off, hitting barriers and hurting themselves is bad for
business.

 

In the USA. Now why is that? Wouldn't have anything to do with the lack
of TV and print coverage would it? Or is it the total lack of US riders
in those classes leading to the same? 125GP always used to have quite a
big following in US club racing as a relatively cheap way to ride a real
racing bike. What happened?

And what? I mean it's obvious that the only reason the guy's so good is
that he's small and Spanish, right. ;-) But he's still good.

What? Both 125 and 250 are *trick* and *fast*. This is like saying that
125MX is irrelevant because they're not "real motorcycles" like the 450
4 strokes.

 

No way that'll ever happen... There just aren't any rides. With the
possible exception of Suzuki and Kawasaki who've occasionally run a 3rd
rider. Hmmm? Mat Mladin on a 3rd GSVR? No, he'd qualify 6th and then not
turn up for the race...

 

Pork Pie? Chicken Tikka Masala, thank you very much. You'd think you'd
be able to get the national dish right. ;-)

 

Naw, he'd bitch about the "back markers" and lapped traffic, then not show
up and blame it all on DuHamel.
Don't think for a minute that Honda couldn't come up with an extra RCV for
someone "special" and given their penchant for young, fast, kids with a big
smile, I'd think Jake might get a shot. It all makes for decent speculation
but there are already enough homeboys running MGP to pump any US crowd up.
All in all, it's great to see MGP return to the States and I'm more than
just happy they have decided to test the waters at L/S. Hopefully, it will
turn into a long term (relatively speaking) series. Though I wouldn't be
surprised if they don't end up somewhere else, if you hadn't heard, there is
a multi million dollar repaving, track modification project going on right
now at Indy. That could well make the US round the crown jewel of MGP so to
speak. Hey, it could happen, or not, we'll see.......

T3

BTW- what's up with all the wet stuff at Brno? If it's wet tomorrow I'd
expect the current leaders to play it safe, any "get off" at this point will
pretty much "screw the pooch." If dry, somebody has got to step up and keep
Val from winning it for anybody else to have a decent shot at the title,
somebody has got to keep him off the top of the box. Knowing that is one
thing, doing it is another all together....

 

The 125 world championship is covered completely on Speed TV in the US along
with the 250's and motogp's. On some cable and satellite systems you have to
pay extra to get Speed TV.

http://www.speedtv.com/articles/moto/

Packs of 125's are thick in club racing, and they have a national
championship:

http://www.usgpru.net/

In fact, even 50's have many devotees, with many racing venues:

http://www.teamcalamari.com/dox/racing.html

TIDDLERS RULE !!!!!!!!

In the 60's I won 3 of my last 4 races on a Yam 100 twin @ 100 mph. It was
dead even with a 175 Honda.

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I wish we'd get more long shots so you can see the lay of the land and how
the bikes are threading through. But, of course, for a small screen they'll
use close in stuff mostly.

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Hey, I call it like I see it. Compare the coverage of say Philip Island
with the TV coverage of WSB at Laguna. At PI, you get close ups, a
camera on a swinging crane, some of the shots are zoomed in so you can
see the tyres slipping sideways as they slide over the top of the hill.
Laguna coverage always looks like it's been shot from 300 yards away.
All you seem to get is wide angle shots with the bikes looking like
little dots. It's nothing to do with it being in the USA. It's do to
with it being crap.

 

Club racing, Mark, Club racing. I thought Chris Ulrich got his start in
racing on a 125? Don't people still race 125GP anywhere in the USA?

 

True.

http://www.usgpru.net/famous.php


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No more wild cards. MotoGP grids are fixed in size.
replacement riders are ok but not more bikes

 

becuse it's a zillion miles away from most of the US fanbase?

 

IMHO.

they don't use the oval turns at all. the final corner takes you onto the
front straightaway and you dive off the oval before you get to turn four
(they run it in reverse) they are trying to tinker with that final corner.
not any runoff currently

 

Not from what I've seen. If I remember correctly the F1 track has a very
fast right out of the infield and hooks in just before turn one. Very little
runoff.
But there's no way the FIA would approve the use of turn one in any shape.
Zero runoff without any barrier doesn't fly

 

watch

 

Because you don't like them. ;-)

Because today's Brno race was enthralling with a fantastic finish.

 

Seems like only MotoGP class will ride. I think it's not a good idea to
exclude 125cc and 250cc (from any GP, there has been enough cutting in the
GP-program)
But of course the US should have it's GP! The Laguna Seca track has to be
updated though.

André