Used Leathers

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Derek Pattison, Oct 2, 2003.

  1. Looking for sub $200 leathers, i dont particularly care what it looks
    like, as long as it fits and is cumfy. No piss-stains is a bonus.

    1piece, 2piece, jacket/pants only.

    Are there any retailers that specialise in cheap used leathers? or am i
    best off asking around for individuals getting new suits.

    Is it advisable to buy used boots? I think i'll most likely get used
    jacket/pants/gloves, new boots, new helmet.

    Pants with an inbuilt testicle protector would be fantastic for all those
    offers of kicks in the nuts. but i'll take all the threefiddy's you care
    to throw my way.

    Regards,
    Derek
     
    Derek Pattison, Oct 2, 2003
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  2. Derek Pattison

    Marty H Guest


    you just want to get rid of it cos we said you didn't look sexy in it
    :p

    anywho, like Zebee said "every pawnshop you can phone"
    I visit crimeconvertors (cashconvertors) a bit just for a looksee and
    I picked up a pair of Dririder winter gloves for $22, quite common to
    have jackets and pants around the $150 mark each.

    as for Boots, army disposals GP boots I heard are a good cheap way for
    protecting the feet.



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    Marty H, Oct 2, 2003
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  3. In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:28:23 +1000

    heh, says the man who was waxing lyrical about how much *more* impact
    damage he might have sustained if he hadn't had armour.

    If it's enough of a ssmash to cut your toes off, it's enough of a smash
    to pulverise them. Modern surgeons are a lot better at re-attachment
    than trying to rebuild jelly-with-bone-bits.

    According to the Cambridge research, what you want is a very solid sole
    that extends out past all of your foot, to protect against crush, a solid
    toecap to protect against impact and abrasion, and padding or even
    better armour plus padding on shin and ankle. But the solid inflexible
    sole and solid toecap seemed to be the most important.


    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Oct 3, 2003
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  4. Add to that a second exception... one of the guys who works/worked at MCA in
    Parramatta... heard that one from far too many and varied sources for it to
    be untrue, and the guy does kinda walk funny...
     
    Intact Kneeslider, Oct 3, 2003
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  5. Funnier than he would have walked of his foot had been whached
    that hard _without_ the steel caps?

    I'm still dubious...

    big
     
    Iain Chalmers, Oct 3, 2003
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  6. Derek Pattison

    Manning Guest

    Um - a third exception - when I was a 4th year med student working on an A&E
    ward (observation only, naturally) I saw a bloke present with damaged toes
    after coming off a bike (an old Triumph I believe). His boots had not
    severed his toes, but the cap had bent far enough back to have broken some
    of his toe bones (I believe oblique or comminuted fractures to the distal
    end of 3 of his proximal phalanges). I don't know what happened to him, he
    was wheeled off to surgery pretty fast (he had other injuries). From what I
    saw, the steel-caps were the primary cause of these particular injuries, his
    feet were otherwise OK. (The rest of him was not in great shape though).

    Most well designed motorcycle boots seem to have a reinforced sole to
    prevent flexion, and a reinforced area for the toes to prevent
    hyperextension. Steel capped boots are designed to protect toes from things
    being dropped on them - common on a building site but not on a motorcycle.

    My two cents worth.

    Manning
     
    Manning, Oct 3, 2003
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  7. Hmm, that didn't take long to get pounced on, did it...
    Disagree utterly and completely. Workboots protect against concentrated
    impact from above and around the foot; removalist dropping washing machine,
    demolition worker mistiming a sledgehammer swing, that sort of thing... no
    workboot I've ever seen has much in the way of protection against even
    gradual overflexion of the toes, which is exactly what would cause the
    toecap to pivot back, down and through your foot like pacman. The only way
    to achieve that would be to immobilise the sole of the boot, and that's not
    an option for a piece of footwear designed to be worn by people who work on
    their feet.
    Mhm... and a hell of a clean slice it would be with a pair of blunt-edged
    domes of steel sheet doing the cutting.

    Ultimately, the sort of scenario I envisage is, say, you hitting the deck
    and the bike rolling onto your foot, or you slide into a ditch and drive
    your foot through a gap between a pair of rocks, which can occur on a longer
    timescale than that of tearing flesh and snapping bone. If you're wearing
    something solid, but distortible (bleah; how's that for a made-up word?),
    like Hi-Tec's Magnum or even just military boots, the boot will follow your
    foot as it's bent into an unnatural position and it will shield from any
    pinpoint stresses, while a workboot would get bent into exactly the shape
    which will bring the rear edge of the toecap down on top of your
    metatarsals, and, while it may not actually cut anything off, it will create
    exactly the sort of stress localisation which breaks bones and whatnot.

    That's why I consider steel toecaps to be a bad idea...
     
    Intact Kneeslider, Oct 3, 2003
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  8. Do you know what foot lb rating and impact ratings of the boots were?

    Hammo
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Oct 3, 2003
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  9. Derek Pattison

    Nev.. Guest

    Never mind the steel toecaps, most work boots slip on, and slip off. If your
    foot is going to be crushed in an accident enough for a steelcap to damage it,
    chances are it's going to be pretty fucked up no matter what you're wearing,
    but you're going to be better of if the boot is still on your foot, regardless
    what it's caps are made of.

    Nev..
     
    Nev.., Oct 3, 2003
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  10. Derek Pattison

    Manning Guest

    Nah, I never looked at the boots, only the x-rays. I only knew what kind of
    boots they were because I overheard what the radio techs and the attending
    said. (In 4th year you do a lot of peering over shoulders and trying to
    overhear conversations.)

    Manning
     
    Manning, Oct 3, 2003
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  11. Derek Pattison

    Sandgroper Guest

    You have overlooked the fact that workboots means steel capped AND non
    steel capped boots , I didn't specifically mention anything about
    steelcaps.

    BTW , steel caps are good for kicking in car doors to teach some idiots
    in cars a few road manners.
     
    Sandgroper, Oct 3, 2003
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  12. Derek Pattison

    Rockit Guest

    Must disagree... happened to be walking along the pits at Bathurst back in
    '98 or whenever it was they tried to
    start it up again, and out the front of one was a pair of blue\white
    Alpinestars near new for $75... and they fitted; not with heavy socks but so
    what.
    Ended up buying my TLR the same colour so that it matched my boots...
    Flash Jack (Rockit)
     
    Rockit, Oct 3, 2003
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  13. Derek Pattison

    paulh Guest


    The claimed Urban Legend isnt that a steel capped boot will cut your
    toes off. Its design and some elementary physics/logic shows pretty
    well that thats possible. But that steel cap boots will somehome cut
    yer toes off when if you didnt wear them you would be better off..

    paulh
     
    paulh, Oct 3, 2003
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  14. Derek Pattison

    John Littler Guest

    I reckon steelcaps suck for riding in anyway - they make your foot a heap taller
    over the toes and stuff up your ability to change gears properly (it's like sex
    with a condom - you can't feel what you're doing properly <grin>)

    JL
     
    John Littler, Oct 4, 2003
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  15. In aus.motorcycles on Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:54:55 +1000
    I have the Bike! reporty on boots, but as it is very much copyright I'm
    not putting it up on the net... I'll locate it and show you next time
    you manage to make it over :0

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Oct 4, 2003
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  16. My gearlever actually comes in behind my steel caps, so I can still feel the
    lever fine.
    --
    Al

    "Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon. "

    Remove *ME* before replying
     
    Alan Pennykid, Oct 4, 2003
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  17. On 3/10/03 10:13 PM, in article
    Only two toes. That¹s not bad.

    Just need to see how many toes come off with out steel-caps......

    Hammo
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Oct 4, 2003
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  18. But...but...if you kicked a car door while wearing steelcapped boots,you'd
    cut your toes off!


    Hangin' Five Pat
     
    Pat Heslewood, Oct 4, 2003
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  19. Derek Pattison

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    "John Littler" wrote
    Never noticed.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Oct 5, 2003
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  20. Derek Pattison

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    "Hamish Alker-Jones" wrote
    Five?

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Oct 5, 2003
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