Unitrack removal / strip-down?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by T i m, Sep 1, 2008.

  1. Um....

    Car: does high 40s mpg, costs £250 a year to insure, tyres last for
    ever, carries lots of stuff as well as humans, protects me from getting
    wet or cold, has on-board music etc, goes 500+ miles on a tankful.

    BMW bike, does similar to the gallon, costs the same to insure, tyres
    shagged in 6k miles, can't carry as many humans or stuff, lets me get
    cold and wet, no entertainment, does 200+ miles on a tank....

    As a logical means of transport, except in town, the car wins out every
    time.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 3, 2008
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  2. T i m

    T i m Guest

    Not sure logic applies with some people though TOG. ;-)

    For some their bike *is* (delete as applicable) their social life, a
    penis extension, a source of excitement, a hobby and all the negatives
    you outlined above are simply for them, badges to be worn proudly.

    "I rode f'in 10,000 miles at f'in 150 mph, at night, in a f'in
    monsoon, got soaked through to the f'in skin and was
    out_of_my_f'in_brains. What a great f'in ride!" [1] ... sorta thing.
    ;-)

    As mentioned elsewhere their bike(s) is bought (and sold) on a whim
    (like a toy, as the next fastest thing comes out) and the only
    spannering they might do to it is to remove the highly tuned /
    matched factory exhaust of it and fit the loudest aftermarket can
    there is, that and some coloured brailed brakes hoses and matching
    fairing screw and anodized foot pegs kit etc etc.

    That's not to say their way is wrong (it isn't) but just not what
    motivates many of us.

    Personally, whilst I have great respect for those who can and do
    actually ride their bikes safely over vast distances (be it on a tour
    or regular commuting) and those who wring every last second out of
    their machines round a track or over 120 ft jumps whilst holding the
    saddle with one hand etc, *I personally* have more respect for those
    who find a wreck of a bike in a barn or ditch and lovingly restore it
    to it's former glory (on a budget), because I understand that more.
    maybe part of that is that I've never had a lot of money (never bought
    a new bike or car etc) so much of my interest was born from a need to
    get (and maintain) reliable 'transport' and initially a motorbike was
    the easiest way to do that. [2]

    I also 'enjoy' looking at some of the custom works_of_art, purely from
    the design / effort POV (ie, no use as an everyday motorbike as such).

    Sad though it may be to some but I am currently 'looking forward' to
    turning up stainless steel replacements for these rusted plain steel
    Unitrack bush / sleeves, partly because I like to improve stuff where
    I can but also because even to buy the stainless and including the
    parts discount I get, they work out cheaper than buying OEM ones, but
    mostly because I'd like to think I never have to touch (or de-rust at
    least) that area again! ;-)

    All the best ..

    T i m

    p.s. Another biker who missed the point on why I'm currently doing
    what I am on this 550 has 1) offered to loan me his 750 Nighthawk
    (which was kind) and 2) said "if the bearings have lasted 22 years
    already ... " without knowing how many sets the bike may have already
    had in it's life and how long it may have been ridden with the
    bearings seizing or actually seized up?

    [1] No I didn't copy / pase that from anyone here <weg>.

    [2] I actually rebuilt my first car (at 15) before my first motorbike.
     
    T i m, Sep 3, 2008
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    Eddie Guest

    That's probably not good.

    Oh, there's something else that might be a factor: I was 23-ish at the
    time (actually, I had to be sober on my 23rd birthday because of the
    painkillers and what-not), whereas you're a /little/ bit older...
    At least they're going to look at it.
    True... I was allowed on crutches the next day.

    The physio said that I could have crutches as soon as my knee (having
    been battered about while they put the intramedullary nail in) could
    cope with lifting my leg off the bed. "Like this?" was my immediate
    response. I suspect my urge to use a proper toilet may have been a
    strong motivating factor; I got the physio to carry the drain bottle
    that was connected to my knee and put it on the toilet floor. Rarely
    have I known such relief.
     
    Eddie, Sep 3, 2008
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  4. T i m

    T i m Guest

    Decent snipping would have confued me less then. :-(

    All the best ..

    T i m
     
    T i m, Sep 3, 2008
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    Ace Guest

    My legs managed to retain their strength when I was down, I guess due
    to being able#Wmade to walk, at least a little bit with the physio
    assisting, from about ten days after the accident. The relatively
    small amount of skiing I did that season (just a 2-3 weeks' worth)
    also helped maintain the muscle.

    But the lost core and upper-body strength has taken two years of hard
    work, and I'm still not sure it's back to what it was beforehand.

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    Ace, Sep 3, 2008
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    T i m Guest

    I am? It's the Usenet ... !
    Well (with respect) we will have to agree to disagree (otherwise I
    wouldn't have replied in the first place), unless you would be so kind
    and explain how anything I said had any relevance to the reply and
    hence why it should have been left in?

    All the best ..

    T i m
     
    T i m, Sep 3, 2008
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    crn Guest

    So keep the GS and put the BMW on EBay. <B-).

    In my case the choice is between 2 1/2 tons of disabled minibus which
    can just manage 30mpg and cannot get under the bloody stupid height
    barriers at many car parks and costs 350 to insure versus the GS which
    parks free anywhere, gets 65 mpg costs 82 to insure (both FC) and makes
    a handy shopping trolley when I dont need to lummox the missus around.

    OK, the minibus can do 600+ miles on a tank versus around 200 but that
    is not an issue. I can use it if the weather is really shit but then
    traffic becomes an issue instead of a bit of filtering fun.

    Getting back to the point, when buying a bike some of us go for a
    practical answer and others go for fancy toys. Its all a matter of
    objectives. For my purposes since retirement the GS is overpowered for
    the task but has far better brakes etc than the damned 125 that tried
    to kill me instead of stopping.
     
    crn, Sep 3, 2008
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    T i m Guest

    Shame.

    I only asked for help re the Unitrack FFS (but this is the Usenet etc
    ....) ;-)

    Ho hum.

    All the best ..

    T i m
     
    T i m, Sep 3, 2008
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    Lozzo Guest

    Is there an ideal age for smashing yourself up now?
     
    Lozzo, Sep 3, 2008
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    T i m Guest

    On 03 Sep 2008 09:37:46 GMT, wrote:

    Indeed, horses for course etc and I'm surprised that within a group
    (motorcyclists) generally known for their comradery that there are
    (here) a minority that seem to want to be otherwise?

    Al the best ..

    T i m
     
    T i m, Sep 3, 2008
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    Eddie Guest

    Mine certainly did, at least in places: the muscle on the inside of my
    forearm would pop out like a tennis ball if I bent my fist inward.
     
    Eddie, Sep 3, 2008
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  12. T i m

    Eddie Guest

    Yeah, it's shit. I remember being told I was getting on a bit when I did
    mine. :-(
     
    Eddie, Sep 3, 2008
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  13. T i m

    Eddie Guest

    "seem" is a key word here. Wind you neck in and stop overreacting.

    Oh, and that's not how you spell camaraderie, assuming that's what you
    were trying to spell.
     
    Eddie, Sep 3, 2008
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    Krusty Guest

    OK a couple of things. Firstly, many of us aren't into the whole bikers
    camaraderie thing. A ****'s a **** no matter what their hobbies are.

    Secondly, if you're looking for acceptance from a group of peers based
    on how you get from A to B, you're in the wrong place. If someone
    thinks you're talking shit, they'll more than likely say so. When that
    happens, never apologise, just admit you're a fuckwit, or start getting
    shouty & sweary - either will do. Just don't make out you should be
    given a break because you're a 'biking comrade'.

    And just in case you think I'm being a sheep & picking on you, I've
    already stated I agree with you on the 'riding for fun/enjoying the
    ride' thing, but you're totally wrong about the Alex/Andy snipping
    thing.

    Oh, & thirdly, if you could lose this...
    ....it'd be good. It's really wanky, especially when you haven't got a
    sig sep.


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    Krusty, Sep 3, 2008
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  15. T i m

    Krusty Guest

    Careful, you'll get cane all excited.

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    Krusty, Sep 3, 2008
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    Ace Guest

    Hardly surprising, though. The thing that sufferred most for me was my
    overall fitness level - sure, the legs were still strong, but I was
    unable to sustain any high level of activity sufficiently long to get
    properly fit - the pain would kick in too early - so I think I got
    progressively less fit right up until about six months ago.

    Even during this last ski season my fitness didn't improve that much -
    I think I was doing too much, such that I was hurting too much to
    really push it, if that makes sense. Probably I'd have done better,
    fitness-wise, with only about half as much skiing and a lot more gym
    work. But sod that, eh? Any day on the mountain is worthwhile in and
    for itself, IMO.

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    Ace, Sep 3, 2008
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    Lozzo Guest

    <waves>
     
    Lozzo, Sep 3, 2008
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    T i m Guest

    I use Agent and it does thread reasonably well (I think).
    I have no issues with Alex's reply.
    I have no issues with the name calling it was the reason it was
    confused by (obviously by my posting what I did to who I did).

    What frustrates me is we are having this conversation in the first
    place because people reply (not that your reply was in itself an issue
    etc).
    "eh? What other reason is there?"

    ... especially when I was replying to someone specific (as specific as
    one can here).

    But no matter ... move on ... there's nothing to see here ... ;-)

    All the best ..

    T i m
     
    T i m, Sep 3, 2008
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    T i m Guest

    No, like I said elsewhere, I have no issue with that.

    All the best ..

    T i m
     
    T i m, Sep 3, 2008
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    T i m Guest

    I don't feel I am Eddie, as in I'm not actually bovvered etc, it's
    just chat after all.
    I was and thanks. ;-)

    All the best ..

    T i m
     
    T i m, Sep 3, 2008
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