[QUOTE="Krusty"] There is if you ride a lot of tiny unclassified backroads, which are frequently strewn with shit & gravel. Big trailie tyres work much better on those.[/QUOTE] They certainly worked for me on the backroads I was doing - though I'm not entirely sure whether or not an 014 would have worked just as well. And the bike still had it's fair share of 'interesting' moments on sand/gravel etc - though I'm getting used to these as part of the 'fun' - it's just something the GSX-R never did. Didn't drop it once though :-)