Moon Badger wrote[QUOTE] *Ding* Actually, suspending the object in the bath seems to work best ( for me ), but it is a faff. This way, the basket doesn't get in the way, things aren't scuffling about in the bath, and it doesn't make irritating noises just on the threshold of your hearing range. Noises that make you want to kill. That may again just be me. [/QUOTE] My hearing was damaged by wearing open-face helmets I think, so those psychosis-inducing frequencies pass me by (the voices say they do, anyway).